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My nomination for best insight so far- by Speedy
#1
I think Speedy's got this one right. It's time to shut down the government in order to pass a whole roster of Democratic issues. Everyone with this?

"In other news, President Obama and the Democrats are planning to shut down the government after the current shut down is over unless the Repugs agree to stiffer gun control laws like a background check at gun shows."
-Speedy
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#2
Meanwhile Speedy is sitting in his Lazy Boy waxing his snow shovel while Michele Bachmann is in Washington helping to run the country into the ground.
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#3
Tuned up the snowblower this past weekend. We are going to miss the snow this week by a couple of hundred miles.

With Michele retiring because of scandal and fear she would lose the next election from a very Repuglican district, things aren't all bad. I doubt if she will spend any time in Club Fed but we can hope. She was heckled today at the WWII memorial for pandering to vets.
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#4
I believe Bachmann voted no this last time along with 6 other republicans.
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#5
I like the spirit but the analogy is off in terms of what is actually happening now. We don't have new gun control laws so there is nothing to fund or enforce, but we do have the PPACA, it's the law. I think it's really important that people consider that fact when weighing what each side is doing in this budget battle.

I can't think of any law that Democrats would hold the government hostage over without also damaging or alienating their own constituents.
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#6
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#7
Reflublicans are attempting to over rule the Supreme Court . . .

President Barack Obama weighed in Tuesday, the start of the fiscal year, by lambasting the Republicans for being "reckless" in their apparent willingness to take down the government in order to take down the law overhauling major aspects of health care coverage. He championed the law, signed it in 2010, then saw it upheld by the Supreme Court last year.

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/10/01/politi...index.html

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid derided the strategy as "just another wacky idea by tea party Republicans," a clear example of the rhetorical firefights that have marked the latest pitched battle over spending. This one has been fueled by GOP efforts to condition any continued funding of the government with the elimination -- or at least the delay -- of Obamacare.

Saying the shutdown's goal is to hinder government efforts to provide health insurance to 15% of the U.S. population that doesn't have coverage, the president said it was "strange that one party would make keeping people uninsured the centerpiece of their agenda."

Veteran GOP Sen. John McCain of Arizona noted that any attempt to repeal Obamacare was going to fail because of Obama's veto, which would require a two-thirds majority in the Senate to overcome. And GOP Rep. Peter King of New York said the problem is tea party conservatives tied to Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas who "really care about nothing but their own agenda" driving the Republican approach in the House.
"We have people in the conference, I believe, who'd be just as happy to have the government shut down," said King, who has been among the Republican legislators pushing for a "clean" funding bill without anti-Obamacare provisions. "They live in these narrow echo chambers. They listen to themselves and their tea party friends. That keeps them going, forgetting that the rest of the country thinks we're crazy."
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#8
Republicans and the rest of political Washington knows the rest of the country doesn't think them crazy because the vast majority don't pay attention to politics until it affects them personally.

They'll begin to notice soon and that's why it's vital for the people responsible for this mess to mount what amounts to a PR campaign deflecting blame from themselves and muddying the waters with a counter offensive.

They're cynical and believe they can sell their big lie to a gullible electorate an in truth that works more often than not because it flies below the radar of most folks. This is not going to be one of those time. More than once that "easily manipulated" electorate has proven them wrong.
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#9
The problem is actually quite simple . . . The Speaker of The House John Boehner is a limp duck with no
influence or control in the Reflublican congress.

The agenda of this group of individuals is to inhibit government and the kaws of the land if they can not get their way.

In some countries they would summarily execute these individuals . . . or at least send them to prison ymmv *(:>*
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