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Used car from dealership. Tips?
#21
space-time wrote:
all this is great advice for buying a USED car from a dealer. What would change if one were to buy a NEW car? would most advice here still apply?

Yes, I think so.

A few thoughts:
- Do your test driving separately and ahead of time. If you are going to different dealers, test driving different models to decide what you want, you're simply not going be able to nail down the best price at that time.

- Once you have decided on the model, trim level, and options, you want to research the "Dealer Invoice" cost.

- Different models will demand different premiums, but for many cars your goal should be $100-300 over dealer cost. Sometimes you can get lower than "Invoice" depending on the situation. And some cars will demand a premium and you will be lucky to get lower than $1000 over invoice.

- Shop at a couple different new car dealers and get an idea for who you feel most comfortable dealing with. Unlike used cars, new cars are all the same and come with the same factory warranty and expected reliability.

- If you are not 100% decided on the car, don't waste much time talking price. If they don't think you're serious or don't think you're ready (If you seem wishy-washy) they won't try too hard and they will be fine with letting you walk.

- Once you're ready to buy, tell them you are prepared to buy TODAY, but only for the right deal. If it's the first dealer you've been to and they don't get close, don't hesitate to walk.

- Go in with financing already arranged.

- Every time the dealer tries to talk with you about "dollars-per-month" remind him that you have financing and you only want to talk about the straight-up price.

- Only after agreeing on the price, see if the dealer can offer any better financing.

- Manufacturers may have special incentives - rebates and low-interest financing. It might be tough to get $100 over invoice AND a big rebate, but give it a try!
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#22
Maybe new cars would be a new topic. Great links and references for car buying strategies/advice.
Interesting articles are the confession series at Edmunds.com
http://www.edmunds.com/car-buying/confes...esman.html

The new car difference is that more standardized information exists to know the real cost of the car and you can better negotiate the price/purchase the car through the no hassle programs like costco, credit unions. Information is available from edmunds.com, cars.com, consumer reports on pricing and features (april issue is the car issue). Undoubtedly other programs exists to find new cars at cheap prices.

An interesting angle that is new is the internet group or pricing at car dealers. Had several friends have great success with the internet--reduces hassle and gets to a reasonable price faster. Reminds me of going to buy from the fleet guys.
http://www.edmunds.com/car-buying/part-o...uying.html

I assume that there are differences based on size of city/area, type of car etc. My experience has been in a large metro area (Houston, TX) with "American" car brands such as GM or Ford.
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#23
space-time wrote:
all this is great advice for buying a USED car from a dealer. What would change if one were to buy a NEW car? would most advice here still apply?

Except that financing is a bigger profit center for new cars than used, very often the dealer will make much more on the financing than on the actual car. The dealer will give you a better price on the car if you'll take a poorer rate on the financing, then very quickly pay it off.
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