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Mavericks is the buggiest POS OS since 7.5.2
#31
Under the Help menu, you should see a "restart with add-ons disabled" option.

Try running with add-ons disabled for awhile and see whether you still have freezes.
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#32
Thanks-- don't want to confound things by changing too much at once.
Let me go for a while not using the Turbomouse and see what that does... next time I freeze I'll try it.
But I don't see how a buggy Firefox add-on could possibly be allowed to take the whole system down. And not leave any trace in the console log.
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#33
Black wrote:
Thanks-- don't want to confound things by changing too much at once.
Let me go for a while not using the Turbomouse and see what that does... next time I freeze I'll try it.
But I don't see how a buggy Firefox add-on could possibly be allowed to take the whole system down. And not leave any trace in the console log.

Hangs vs crashes. If everything's hung then nothing's writing a log.

...

One more thing:

Go into the Date & Time settings in the System Preferences and check the box to have the time-separators blink.

If they're still blinking when your mouse freezes then your OS hasn't frozen and you should troubleshoot it as a problem with some program snagging your input; a bad device-driver; or a USB hardware problem.
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#34
Thanks, done.
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#35
Black wrote: I followed the advice in the previous thread to delete duplicate fonts

That was one of two suggestions I had for you, Black. The other was to use Font Book to validate your fonts.
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#36
Article Accelerator wrote:
[quote=Black]I followed the advice in the previous thread to delete duplicate fonts

That was one of two suggestions I had for you, Black. The other was to use Font Book to validate your fonts. Thanks- I have done so and nothing 'bad' was found.....any other suggestions appreciated.
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#37
When I was running Lion I would sometimes experience freezes like Black described but the system was not actually frozen. From another computer I would ssh to the troubled computer and kill the Logi process. That would take me back to the login screen and I could then continue working without a restart. It has been awhile since I did it but this is how I remember it. Obviously only if you are feeling adventurous.

[MBPR:~] dave% ssh username@ip_address
Password:
imac:~ dave$ ps auxw | grep logi*
root 130 0.0 0.0 2468732 2160 ?? Ss Tue12PM 0:00.05 /System/Library/CoreServices/logind
sudo kill -9 130
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#38
I disabled USB overdrive and put my old trackball to the side and just used my Logitech trackpad.
Now 5 days later another hard freeze.
Same deal-- pull up a news website with a lot of text, read a bit, go to scroll and immediate lockup.
So happy to go back to the trackball...

Log:
4/29/14 10:36:04.323 PM coreservicesd[56]: SFLEntryBase::ListHasChanged mach_msg returned 10000004d
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4/29/14 10:36:05.160 PM Preview[6368]: It does not make sense to draw an image when [NSGraphicsContext currentContext] is nil. This is a programming error. Break on void _NSWarnForDrawingImageWithNoCurrentContext() to debug. This will be logged only once. This may break in the future.
4/29/14 10:36:05.256 PM coreservicesd[56]: SFLEntryBase::ListHasChanged mach_msg returned 10000004d
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4/29/14 10:36:35.048 PM mds[84]: (Error) Volume: Root store set to FSOnly with matching create! (loaded:1)
4/29/14 10:36:35.083 PM cfprefsd[24]: MIG demux failed. This message ID is invalid: 0xaf5
4/29/14 10:36:35.083 PM cfprefsd[24]: MIG demux failed. This message ID is invalid: 0xaf5
4/29/14 10:36:35.116 PM fseventsd[95]: check_vol_last_mod_time:XXX failed to get mount time (25; &mount_time == 0x107f173d8)
4/29/14 10:36:35.116 PM fseventsd[95]: log dir: /Volumes/MICRO32/.fseventsd getting new uuid: 42F788C6-8F09-4112-846A-563FB3F088C8
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4/29/14 10:38:05.029 PM com.apple.SecurityServer[14]: Killing auth hosts
4/29/14 10:38:05.029 PM com.apple.SecurityServer[14]: Session 100023 destroyed
4/29/14 10:50:09.000 PM bootlog[0]: BOOT_TIME 1398829809 0
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#39
I've since bought a recent/supported Kensington trackball. Another crash last night-- this time cursor still moving despite everything else completely froze.
I had disabled but hadn't uninstalled USB Overdrive-- now I've uninstalled it.
I thought upgrading Flash might have helped since the last freeze... when I froze last night I had one browser window composing a message here open, than went to try to get some images I think...
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#40
First system freeze since May 12 I think. Updated to 10.9.3 in last 24 hours.
A bunch of windows open in Firefox... not sure what the last straw was but the cursor was still moving at first and then it wasn't.
Somehow all my windows came back intact after reboot including a text edit window that hadn't been saved. Some not quite where I left 'em though.
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