Snapchat CEO gets embarassed, Stanford's awesome response

[Lemon Drop]

http://mashable.com/2014/05/30/stanford-...at-emails/

"Stanford is a breeding ground for tech and business leaders who lead top startups and venture capital firms in Silicon Valley and beyond. Ignoring sexist comments by turning a blind eye to students who promote this mindset, even if only jokingly, allows it to persist. It doesn't look good for the university, and it doesn't look promising for the future leaders it produces or the attitudes they will take with them.

That's why Stanford told its entire student body in no uncertain terms that the onus is not just on the person who sends the email but, perhaps more so, on those who receive it. To "reject such behavior whenever and wherever we see it even — no, especially — if it comes from a friend, a classmate, or a colleague."


The provost's email to the student body is worth the read. Good message to the bystanders.

[Speedy]

No more hookers and booze either? It's a frat house, for crying out loud.

[Lemon Drop]

Speedy wrote:
No more hookers and booze either? It's a frat house, for crying out loud.

Can't tell if you're serious or not, but seriously, what he wrote is beyond harmless hijinks.

Being a young man with alcohol in a herd is no excuse to use your **** as a weapon.

[Speedy]

I read the email excerpts. He was an 18 year old frat brother who was feeling his oats for the first time. I have zero problem with what he did - then. I would never have done any of those things including the drugs and alcohol and I had every chance when I was recruited to join a fraternity as a freshman. Not my cup of tea, I was a jock and, peripherally, part of the anti-war movement (only an attendee, never an organizer or an activist.) Not all that different from Speigel though in that hot women were my top priority with similar to his results - zero. He is now an ancient 23 and is very regretful of his actions as an 18 year old. A lifetime ago to him. Anyway, he seems to have been more talk than action, trying to desperately build up his image and ego and play down his perhaps unattractive nerdiness. Easy to lie in an email about what you have done, harder on his ego even now to deny the same.

My son is 21 and has had mandatory (by his university) sessions on how to behave towards others, especially the opposite sex. He was 17 at the time. Not something I had nor perhaps did Speigel. In high school in one of my son's classes he was asked to write about what he wanted to achieve for the year. One top goal was to find a girlfriend. He was unsuccessful and to this day has never been on a date. Some things never change...

A bigger deal, as an 18 year old, is screwing his friend, Reggie Brown, out of any equity in SnapChat.

[Lemon Drop]

Yeah I see your point, I just don't excuse it quite so easily and I think that is the point of the Stanford Provost's email.
I am also the mom of a 21 year old frat boy, so I do know the territory but becoming a tribal jerk is far from mandatory.

The bro v bro treachery around "Future Freshman," the precursor to SnapChap, is pretty interesting.
http://valleywag.gawker.com/how-to-screw...1030076985

[Speedy]

Even though a sexist pig, I see your point also.

[Mini 9]

you will OBEY
Political Correctness rules.

[gabester]

Mini 9 wrote:
you will OBEY
Political Correctness rules.

It's not so much that; but you should have basic respect for other people whether you know them or not. Calling members of the opposite sex rude names and talking about performing degrading acts is not acceptable - even if it's just amongst your buddies. Where do you draw the line between that and would-be rapists?

Seriously, guys who talk like that don't deserve the air they breathe much less your defense of their behavior.

Of course, if you want to encourage fraternity bro behavior like that, just go ahead and get yourself in line for the misandrists' euthanasia. At the very least feel some shame.