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The hideous, diabolical truth about Hillary Clinton
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It is time someone got to the bottom of everything that people say about Hillary Clinton. Who is she? More importantly, WHAT is she? I have compiled the following timeline of her life by combining all the actual theories about her. When lined up together, they form quite a biography.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/com...3e66b50d76&wpisrc=nl_most-draw8&wpmm=1
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#4
That was a well written piece and covers the material well, but the one thing that REALLY annoys me about Clinton was not mentioned in the story - the running for cover under sniper fire in Iraq lie.

It's covered here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact...in-bosnia/

Listening to her tell that FALSE story reminds of everything I hate about politicians in general. The way she so easily tells this lie defeats a lot of her good work in my eye.

But even given that, I supported her over Sanders and WAY over Trump.
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hal wrote:
That was a well written piece and covers the material well, but the one thing that REALLY annoys me about Clinton was not mentioned in the story - the running for cover under sniper fire in Iraq lie.

It's covered here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact...in-bosnia/

Listening to her tell that FALSE story reminds of everything I hate about politicians in general. The way she so easily tells this lie defeats a lot of her good work in my eye.

But even given that, I supported her over Sanders and WAY over Trump.

30 years of words coming out of her mouth, and this sticks? How 'bout focusing on what she's done well and good and how many people are better off simply because of her work and determination.

Think about it. If she purposefully lied about this. The fact that these people took God knows how many man-hours to determine that this throwaway statement was a "lie" is stupid. Who knows what was going on in her head anyway. They want to try to think as if they channeled her mentally. If this is a smoking-gun then where is the list of other lies?

This is an exceptional, honest woman that doesn't deserve even slightly this kind of judgement. Though I respect your feelings about it Hal as that's your right and you're a discerning person.
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Imagine you've had this very good friend for over 30 years - a really good person that has done many wonderful things and he tells this story of working under extreme conditions that you later find out is a complete fabrication. I would really be wondering what else has been said in the past that was also fabricated.

This issue has been fully researched - the story she told was pure BS. If she had said, 'yeah, we landed in Baghdad and it was a real shittstorm' and then moved on to another subject - yeah, I'd call that a throwaway line and not consider it. But it was a very detailed story she told and it was all fabricated. Why would an exceptionally honest person make up a detailed lie for no reason? Maybe she's not exceptionally honest - it seems to me to be a reasonable conclusion.
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It wasn't in Bagdad - it was in the former Yugoslavia, just after the war. Her "detailed story" amounted to this quote from 2008:

"There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base," she said in 2008 [12 years after the event].

All the "bullets whistling overhead" stuff appears to be embellishments by critics.

In 2008, a CBS reporter who was on the plane in '96 wrote:

"Due to the possibility of sniper fire, our pilots used what we were told are 'assault take-offs and landings.' In short, the climb and descent are very fast, and very steep to minimize exposure to hostile fire on the ground."

"It's exciting and frightening and, in the midst of it all, wearing our helmets and bulletproof vests, it's easy to imagine we may be narrowly escaping enemy bullets."

"In reality, we had no known incidents of enemy fire on our aircraft."

To be fair, however, Attkisson did note in her 1996 CBS report that the "frontline outpost" that Clinton and Chelsea visited was "one of the most dangerous places where US forces are operating."

A Clinton speechwriter (not a totally unbiased source, but...) said:

"I was on the plane with then First Lady Hillary Clinton for the trip from Germany into Bosnia in 1996. We were put on a C-17 - a plane capable of steep ascents and descents - precisely because we were flying into what was considered a combat zone. We were issued flak jackets for the final leg because of possible sniper fire near Tuzla. As an additional precaution, the First Lady and Chelsea were moved to the armored cockpit for the descent into Tuzla. We were told that a welcoming ceremony on the tarmac might be canceled because of sniper fire in the hills surrounding the air strip.

In her book (which came out before her statement), Clinton said:

"Security conditions were constantly changing in the former Yugoslavia, and they had recently deteriorated again. Due to reports of snipers in the hills around the airstrip, we were forced to cut short an event on the tarmac with local children, though we did have time to meet them and their teachers and to learn how hard they had worked during the war to continue classes in any safe spot they could find."

Would any of that stick in your mind if you went through it?

Now look again at her original statement, 12 years after the event:

"There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base"

Yes, it was an embellishment. But she was going into an area considered a war zone (with her child!), they had been given reports of sniper fire in the area, they were put in flak jackets, did a military-style rapid landing, and told while there was supposed to be a greeting on the tarmac, they might have to skip or limit it due to security.

To me, it was a stretcher, but not the Lie, LIE, LI3!!!! folks try to make it into. Your opinion may vary.
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hal wrote:
Imagine you've had this very good friend for over 30 years - a really good person that has done many wonderful things and he tells this story of working under extreme conditions that you later find out is a complete fabrication. I would really be wondering what else has been said in the past that was also fabricated.

What you need to do, is write in Mickey Mouse, or any other non-existent entity.

Because what you are looking for does not exist.
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