"I committed no crime, and if you think I committed a crime, you're probably really stupid, because you don't know who I

[Dennis S]

And the fart.

[S. Pupp]

Too bad that poor judgement, poor character, greed, and very likely dementia have robbed this man of what could have been an admirable legacy.

[JoeH]

S. Pupp wrote:
Too bad that poor judgement, poor character, greed, and very likely dementia have robbed this man of what could have been an admirable legacy.

I just see it as an extension of the self-serving a-hole he was in the immediate aftermath of 9-11. So many times he made it all about him, not those who had been lost or those who lost.

He is supposed to have been behind cleaning up some crime in NYC. At some point I would like to see an an objective analysis of what was actually accomplished during that period and how much he was actually responsible for as opposed to others who did less posturing for the press.

[Sarcany]

S. Pupp wrote:
Too bad that poor judgement, poor character, greed, and very likely dementia have robbed this man of what could have been an admirable legacy.

His legacy without 9/11 was putting tens of thousands of innocents behind bars and depriving urban youths of an economically viable future in a racist campaign of "broken window" and illegal stop-and-frisk policing, and exploiting his office for political favors while siphoning off public funds to further enrich the elite he was trying to suck up to, and gutting the retirement funds and health services for police and firemen.

People used to spit after saying his name to keep Satan away.

[NewtonMP2100]

....I spit....on his grave.....

[vision63]

JoeH wrote:
[quote=S. Pupp]
Too bad that poor judgement, poor character, greed, and very likely dementia have robbed this man of what could have been an admirable legacy.

I just see it as an extension of the self-serving a-hole he was in the immediate aftermath of 9-11. So many times he made it all about him, not those who had been lost or those who lost.

He is supposed to have been behind cleaning up some crime in NYC. At some point I would like to see an an objective analysis of what was actually accomplished during that period and how much he was actually responsible for as opposed to others who did less posturing for the press.
That was Bill Bratton as Commissioner of Police in NYC that did the "crime reduction." When Giuliani became jealous of the attention Bratton was getting, they argued and Bill resigned.

Giuliani takes credit for the resurrection of Times Square but that begun by Disney's Michael Eisner when they decided to restore the New Amsterdam Theater (after successfully restoring the El Capitan Theater on Hollywood Blvd which sparked a massive restoration of that entertainment zone.

"I had a little concern about the adjacent nightlife, and he [Giuliani wrote: looked me in the eye and he said, “It’ll be gone,” and I said, “Mr. Mayor, you know there is the American Civil Liberties Union, and I mean, they’re just not gone.” He said, “Look me in the eye.” And I said, “What?” He said, “Look me in the eye.” I said, “Okay.” He said, “They will be gone.” Scared me. I guess[ed] they were going to be gone. So that was that, and we said yes.
— Michael Eisner"]

It was Hillary Clinton with the help of President Bush that secured the billions to immediately aid NYC after 9/11.

THIS MF IS RESPONSIBLE FOR NOTHING GOOD.

[AllGold]

From other things I have read as well as this thread, it sounds like Guiliani is a master of self promotion. Kinda reminds you of someone Guiliani recently worked for.

[RgrF]

Giuliani is a product of the crime fear hysteria that, from time to time, the right uses to gin up fear and turn fascistic dreams into public policy. We're at the doorstep of one of those times today.

[hal]

AllGold wrote:
From other things I have read as well as this thread, it sounds like Guiliani is a master of self promotion. Kinda reminds you of someone Guiliani recently worked for.

that is an obvious common thread with these whacked repubs - MTG is a perfect example - she has no qualifications whatsoever, but self promotion is strong with this one...

[Speedy]

You have to admire his selflessness and loyalty, working countless hours knowing he wouldn’t get paid one red cent while his friend and client raked in a hundred million dollars for the friend’s defense. Not even a pardon.