07-08-2023, 05:21 AM
davester wrote:
I guess that Musk doesn't care about that insignificant 34% of the world market.
Of course he does!
Look at that cool toy he got them!!

It's painted beigy platinum.
New Tesla accessory, probably not fake...
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07-08-2023, 05:21 AM
davester wrote: Of course he does! Look at that cool toy he got them!! ![]() It's painted beigy platinum.
07-08-2023, 01:10 PM
FWIW:
1. I’d venture that few, if any, Teslas are sold in the vast majority of the countries in davester’s list 2. Most of the land area of the planet is right-side driving 3. As far as I can tell on cursory examination, only one country has switched from right-side to left-side, while many many have switched from left-side or mixed to right-side. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-_an...nd_traffic
07-08-2023, 03:45 PM
DeusxMac wrote: True that the primary left-side markets are the UK, Australia, New Zealand, India, Japan and maybe South Africa, but then a list of right-side markets is also mostly tiny countries with no Tesla sales. The main point to be made is that 34% of the world's population lives in left-side countries, a not insignificant number. There are certainly a lot of Teslas in the UK, just based on observations made during my recent visit there. DeusxMac wrote: 2. Most of the land area of the planet is right-side driving I'm not sure that's actually true. Also, land area is irrelevant since most land area doesn't have roads and/or chargers. It's the percentage of population that's more relevant, which as I noted is 66% right, 34% left. All that said, note that it's only the Model X and Model S for which right-hand drive versions are being discontinued. Those are Tesla's high cost, low volume models that only get bought by the very well off. Probably the UK and Japan are the most likely to see a big sales hit since incomes in those countries are relatively high.
07-08-2023, 05:14 PM
davester wrote: True that the primary left-side markets are the UK, Australia, New Zealand, India, Japan and maybe South Africa, but then a list of right-side markets is also mostly tiny countries with no Tesla sales. The main point to be made is that 34% of the world's population lives in left-side countries, a not insignificant number. There are certainly a lot of Teslas in the UK, just based on observations made during my recent visit there. Of those in that 34%, how many (number, not percentage) can afford to buy a $40+ thousand dollar auto? (or even have an ICE auto dealership available, or reliable electrical service, etc.?) davester wrote: [quote=DeusxMac]2. Most of the land area of the planet is right-side driving I'm not sure that's actually true. Also, land area is irrelevant since most land area doesn't have roads and/or chargers. It's the percentage of population that's more relevant, which as I noted is 66% right, 34% left. The point is that roads are only on land; existing and future roads. (red = right-side, blue = left-side) ![]() davester wrote: All that said, note that it's only the Model X and Model S for which right-hand drive versions are being discontinued. Those are Tesla's high cost, low volume models that only get bought by the very well off. Probably the UK and Japan are the most likely to see a big sales hit since incomes in those countries are relatively high. Yep.
07-09-2023, 02:54 AM
DeusxMac wrote: The point is that roads are only on land; existing and future roads. (red = right-side, blue = left-side) ![]() Note that more than half of the red areas on that map are either ice cap, tundra, impenetrable jungle, trackless desert, or rugged mountain ranges, all of which are places where roads and electric cars will not exist for the foreseeable future.
07-09-2023, 04:47 AM
India has over 1.4 billion people. That's a lot of people (well over 4X the population of the U.S.), even if most of them don't own cars.
While the automobile wasn't invented in the U.S., it's easy to say it was first adopted for mass public consumption--or you could say "perfected"--in the U.S. That's why I don't understand why driving on the right-hand side of the road isn't universal, but I guess traffic rule-of-the-road predates the automobile. |
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