"The president’s policies right now are doing much more harm than the [BP] spill itself to the economy of the South coas

[mattkime]

>>There is no other way to extract the hydrocarbons the feeds America's economy.

well, except for buying them on the open market.

[davester]

billb wrote:
Like it or not ,the Mississippi river moves not just the largest per centage of river freight north and south , bit is also the center of gas and oil exploration and extraction in the Gulf. It is a huge percentage of the Western Gulf economy. There is no other way to extract the hydrocarbons the feeds America's economy.
Despite the Foundry's bent, the moratorium and the article's facts still remain.

Just a little bit hyperbolic this morning, bill? The hydrocarbons from the gulf represent a very small fraction of America's economy and oil is a worldwide commodity...the moratorium effects are purely local. Also, there is definitely another way to extract hydrocarbons. The american oil biz has successfully lobbied against safety standards that are de rigeur in many other nations, and have had the oversight agencies wrapped around their little finger, while they pressed on with the most hazardous type of extraction (deep sea drilling). The disaster can be attributed directly to the industry and the laxity of government oversight that grew under the Bush administration. The moratorium (which is on deep sea drilling only) was badly needed in order for the industry and regulatory agencies to get their acts back together.

Landrieu's stance is based on her need to pander to her constituents, who are definitely affected economically by the moratorium. The moratorium is definitely an unfortunate result of the disaster, but a necessary one.

[mattkime]

I have sympathy for those who have been negatively affected by the moratorium but that doesn't mean that the oil business continue without considerable changes.

[OWC Jamie]

As usual , Dave totally obsfucates and intentionally misses the point.
Dave prattles on about America's economy when the people in Nola and that area are the ones suffering.
Dave apparently didn't read the OP's article.
In other words, tough shit Nola.
Davester is also conveniently forgetting the current admin's plans for opening even more off-shore waters for exploration. The exact same 'failed Bush policies'.
Talk about slathering on the hyperboles.

[davester]

billb wrote:
As usual , Dave totally obsfucates and intentionally misses the point.
Dave prattles on about America's economy when the people in Nola and that area are the ones suffering.
Dave apparently didn't read the OP's article.
In other words, tough shit Nola.

billb apparently didn't bother reading my post.

billb wrote:
Davester is also conveniently forgetting the current admin's plans for opening even more off-shore waters for exploration. The exact same 'failed Bush policies'.
Talk about slathering on the hyperboles.

Strawmen appearing out of the reptilian recesses of bill's brain. This statement has nothing to do with anything I said.

[$tevie]

Isn't the moratorium meant to be a chance for the oil companies to improve their practices? Instead of b!tching and carping, aren't they supposed to be working on it? Who knows, perhaps they are working on it during the moratorium, does anyone here know otherwise?

[davester]

To most people that is a no-brainer $tevie, but there are definitely folks outside the "most people" subset on this thread. New rules have already been issued and implemented for some aspects of offshore drilling. However, they're still working on reforms for certain deep sea operations. The people trying to politicize this whole thing don't for a second stop and realize that the Obama administration has zero incentive for prolonging the moratorium any more than is absolutely necessary. They are running purely on the outrage dispensed by the right wing propaganda mill and have no room for actual data when constructing their "arguments".

[Ted King]

never mind

[Mac1337]

The oil spill happened on Obama's regulatory watch. Either there were not enough regulations on the books or they were not enforced. Both are Obama's fault, not the oil industry. People forget that this was an accident. If it was systemic it would not take 30 years to happen.

[mattkime]

>>Both are Obama's fault, not the oil industry.

yes, and Steve Jobs is at fault for my defective imac.