Say goodbye to discs and the CS from Adobe...

[pRICE cUBE]

This would be a good time for Apple to return Final Cut back to prominence and make a full featured Aperture to take on Photoshop.

[Bosco]

Told you so.

Hopefully, there will be a reasonable replacement for Photoshop and Illustrator by the time CS6 is no longer supported by a future iteration of Mac OS.

After that, I'm done with Adobe.

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[GGD]

Paul F. wrote:
*sigh*
Can't say I didn't this coming...
Looks like I'll have to find something else to replace InDesign for the newsletter I do. I do it for a non-profit, and neither they, nor I, is going to pay $600/yr to use it.

Looks like single-app pricing is $20/mo, so if you just need InDesign, is $240/yr any easier to swallow?

http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecl...guide.html

[Paul F.]

C(-)ris wrote:

Doesn't bother me any, as I don't actually have to buy any product personally. But, I am extremely surprised, as that goes against what many adobe reps have told me. Although it was premature before, you may now commence with your sky is falling antics without comment from me.

I think they wanted to keep it a complete secret to prevent early and growing backlash.

From a support perspective it will be way easier to manage as everything is kept track of online and we won't have to deal with keeping track of who has what. I'm curious to see what deployment tools they include as we don't want every use to have to individually download the product.

Don't recall anyone saying it would cause the sky to fall... only that it would be the direction Adobe was going to take, sooner or later. We guessed "sooner", you guessed "never".
And you have every right to your opinion (don't want there to be confusion on that

I do agree with you that it would simplify support...
But there are enough "casual" or "non-money making" users of InDesign (and the rest of the Suite.. I'm just focused on what I use...) that are now going to discontinue use of the product that I have a hard time seeing how this is going to benefit their bottom line in the long run.
Maybe it will, maybe it'll be the best move they ever made... but I doubt it.

It does have me price-checking QuarkXpress though.
Looks like we don't qualify for their definition of "non-profit" however.

[Paul F.]

GGD wrote:
[quote=Paul F.]
*sigh*
Can't say I didn't this coming...
Looks like I'll have to find something else to replace InDesign for the newsletter I do. I do it for a non-profit, and neither they, nor I, is going to pay $600/yr to use it.

Looks like single-app pricing is $20/mo, so if you just need InDesign, is $240/yr any easier to swallow?

http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecl...guide.html
Since it's been my own out-of-pocket expense for 10 years to upgrade Adobe Creative Suite every 4 years or so (and I'm overdue), it's easier.. but probably not in the cards for me.

I might though...

[Buzz]

I'm betting Adobe is banking on raking it in from the multi-seat corporate gigs, and will offer volume discounts. They'll probably also come up w/ student and home user pricing models as well. They probably don't give much of a sh!t about those of us fall in the cracks... basically, if we generate enough income from their products, we'll pay whatever their extortion fee is, if not, we'll look elsewhere to resolve the issue. It's not a big enough festering pimple on their butt to warrant their concern. 2¢


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[decay]

Paul F. wrote:
*sigh*
Can't say I didn't this coming...
Looks like I'll have to find something else to replace InDesign for the newsletter I do. I do it for a non-profit, and neither they, nor I, is going to pay $600/yr to use it.

Isn't your current version still working?

Do you have to accept files from others with higher versions?

You probably don't need to upgrade.

[Paul F.]

decay;

Mine still works.... but I think I'm at CS3 or CS4 (I'm at work, and keep forgetting to check what version I have at home...), so at SOME point, I'm going to upgrade my Mac or my OS past what will run what I've got. Not today, not this year, but at some point.
And I won't get "pushed" into the subscription model if there are other alternatives to experiment with before that day comes.

[JoeM]

Well, I've been saying it was coming since the first cloud teases they put out. It really was obvious. Most users would plunk down $600+ for x upgrade and stay with that for at least one or two years or 1 or 2 major updates.

Adobe was trying to find a way to force users to shell out the $600 upgrade fee a year and they have it now. This is why I purchased the upgrades to CS 6 Premium and Lightroom 4 with the media.

Considering the bloatware and bugs that don't seem to get fixed, Adobe more than likely won't be seeing any of my moola for a few more years.

And I have Quark 9.5 so I should be good for a while...

[M A V I C]

I just hope CS6 works in 10.9. I may be stuck there for a long, long time to come.

And Apple won't help us, they don't care about pro users anymore.

And what are these Photoshop alternatives people speak of? At last check, Adobe's file formats are proprietary and if anyone tries to be able to open them, Adobe sues.