RIP , photojournalist James Foley

[Black]

$tevie wrote:
It's funny because the conservatives refuse to hang out here, and then complain tbat it's too liberal.

^this^

[mrlynn]

DeusxMac wrote:
[quote=mrlynn]
If we don't destroy (decimate, ruin, incapacitate, etc.) ISIS the Soviet Union, they will indeed be around, running an Islamo-fascist Communist state over the entire Levant planet... Head-in-the-sand is what led to WWII WW III.
/Mr Lynn

Is this ridiculous analogy an argument for hanging out here? Well, if it were not for Ronald Reagan standing up to the Left and the Communists, we might still be facing the Soviet Union.

/Mr Lynn

[DeusxMac]

mrlynn wrote:
[quote=DeusxMac]
[quote=mrlynn]
If we don't destroy (decimate, ruin, incapacitate, etc.) ISIS the Soviet Union, they will indeed be around, running an Islamo-fascist Communist state over the entire Levant planet... Head-in-the-sand is what led to WWII WW III.
/Mr Lynn

Is this ridiculous analogy an argument for hanging out here? Well, if it were not for Ronald Reagan standing up to the Left and the Communists, we might still be facing the Soviet Union.

/Mr Lynn
I must have missed it. When did Reagan "decimate, ruin, incapacitate" the Soviet Union?

[RgrF]

mrlynn wrote:
[quote=DeusxMac]
[quote=mrlynn]
If we don't destroy (decimate, ruin, incapacitate, etc.) ISIS the Soviet Union, they will indeed be around, running an Islamo-fascist Communist state over the entire Levant planet... Head-in-the-sand is what led to WWII WW III.
/Mr Lynn

Is this ridiculous analogy an argument for hanging out here? Well, if it were not for Ronald Reagan standing up to the Left and the Communists, we might still be facing the Soviet Union.

/Mr Lynn
The Soviet Union fell under it's own weight. That you still think it was a Hollywood production says more about your thought process than it does about historical reality.

It's always nice when you wrap up history in your own little package, not necessarily accurate but nonetheless reassuring when it bolsters your belief system.

[OWC Jamie]

Lemon Drop wrote:
[quote=mrlynn]
[quote=RgrF]
US Special forces did a rescue incursion that failed, what else would you right wing whack jobs have us do?

Shades of Jimmy Carter!

Here's what we should do: We should partner with the Kurds and anyone else who will help and utterly destroy ISIS/ISIL.

Turn about is fair play: What would you moonbats have us do? Sit back and watch while ISIS takes over all of the Sunni Arab world, and sends its robotic Western converts to infiltrate and terrorize the 'infidel' nations?

/Mr Lynn
You've got that last part completely backwards. The 3 jihadis who just executed this journalist are BRITS. They were raised and radicalized in London, and went to Syria and elsewhere to do their thing.

Also, like al Qaeda before it, ISIS is not a static group of people you can exterminate. ISIS is an ideology, a perverse, twisted idea of Islam.
You can't bomb, capture, or kill an ideology, you can only hope that it's followers, present and future, come up with something better to do with their time. Extremism will always be around - I suspect that in a year or two we won't even be discussing ISIS, but some other group will have taken their place. The best thing we can do is help the region grow economically, so that people have hope, and support political stability that reflects what the people actually want.

We can identify and arrest the specific people who did this terrible crime, and we will. But they will be martyrs for their cause, it won't be a deterrent.



eeewww, you're starting to sound like G. W.

yuck, poo

[August West]

We were winning the Long War against worldwide Islamo-fascism, before this administration came into power.

Are you on crack?

[mrlynn]

August West wrote:

We were winning the Long War against worldwide Islamo-fascism, before this administration came into power.

Are you on crack?

At the end of George W. Bush's second term, Saddam Hussain and sons were gone, al Qaeda in Iraq had been defeated, Khadafy in Libya had been cowed into giving up his nuclear-weapons program, Israel was confident in their US supporter and ally, Islamist movements in Southeast Asia and the Philippines had been weakened (by covert action). Afghanistan's Taliban (with its safe havens in western Pakistan) was still a problem, as was Iran's sponsorship of terrorism and its nuclear program. Syria had yet to erupt, but was under close scrutiny by the US and Israel (as Assad had received truckloads of Saddam's chemical weapons).

Most important, it was understood that we were engaged in a decades-long campaign, if not to "drain the swamp," at least to keep the worldwide Islamo-fascist movement on the defensive and preoccupied locally, rather than organizing terrorist attacks against the US and Europe. I think in that sense we were winning, though we had by no means won. North Africa, for instance, was becoming a serious problem.

In the last six years, we have taken our eye off the ball. Here is Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel on ISIS/ISIL:

https://news.yahoo.com/hagel-islamic-sta...40920.html wrote:

Hagel: Islamic State 'beyond anything we've seen'

Washington (AFP) - US Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel warned Thursday that the Islamic State is more than a traditional "terrorist group" and better armed, trained and funded than any recent threat.

"They marry ideology and a sophistication of strategic and tactical military prowess. They are tremendously well funded. This is beyond anything we have seen," Hagel told reporters.

/Mr Lynn

[Speedy]

Saddam and sons - dead.

al Qaeda - gone. Osama - dead.

Qaddafi - dead.

ISIL - makes me almost miss Saddam.

4000 dead troops. Thanks, Pres. Bush, the Great Liar.

Israel - more support than ever.

People around the world loved and respected Pres. Bush so much, Pres. Obama was given the Nobel Peace Prize for being not Pres. Bush.

[mrlynn]

[rjmacs]

mrlynn wrote:

Danny Pearl and Nick Berg don't miss him, i promise you that.