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buh-bye Toyota Tundra V8
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2022 Tundras will get a 3.5L twin-turbo iForce V6 engines, similar to Ford’s F-150.
The V6 actually has more power than their legendary V8.
According to European on line reports, the V8 is also being dropped from the Land Cruiser line.
Apparently, the march to EV trucks is a little slow @ Toyota.
https://www.powernationtv.com/post/2022-...8-for-this
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MrNoBody wrote:
Apparently, the march to EV trucks is a little slow @ Toyota.
https://www.powernationtv.com/post/2022-...8-for-this

Alex on Autos talked abut Toyota's preference for Hybrids vs Pure Electrics, and worked out the numbers. Turns out at a large scale, the carbon savings is better on Hybrids.
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MrNoBody wrote:
2022 Tundras will get a 3.5L twin-turbo iForce V6 engines, similar to Ford’s F-150.
The V6 actually has more power than their legendary V8.
According to European on line reports, the V8 is also being dropped from the Land Cruiser line.
Apparently, the march to EV trucks is a little slow @ Toyota.
https://www.powernationtv.com/post/2022-...8-for-this

Toyota says "We're focused on being the world's number one automaker." When they do sell all electric, I'm pretty sure they'll be number one at that too. People prefer cars that last a long long time without breaking.
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Rolando wrote: Alex on Autos talked abut Toyota's preference for Hybrids vs Pure Electrics, and worked out the numbers. Turns out at a large scale, the carbon savings is better on Hybrids.

That is nonsense except in areas where electricity is generated by burning coal and also assumes that the massive transition away from carbon-intensive electricity generation is not occurring.
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When it comes to trucks, Toyota is a follower not an innovator. Of course, trucks and innovation are a bit contradictory
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vision63 wrote:
[quote=MrNoBody]
2022 Tundras will get a 3.5L twin-turbo iForce V6 engines, similar to Ford’s F-150.
The V6 actually has more power than their legendary V8.
According to European on line reports, the V8 is also being dropped from the Land Cruiser line.
Apparently, the march to EV trucks is a little slow @ Toyota.
https://www.powernationtv.com/post/2022-...8-for-this

Toyota says "We're focused on being the world's number one automaker." When they do sell all electric, I'm pretty sure they'll be number one at that too. People prefer cars that last a long long time without breaking.
That is basically what Sony said about their DSLRs not having video capabilities for so long. I think it was really because they didn't want to eat their own lunch.
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davester wrote:
[quote=Rolando]Alex on Autos talked abut Toyota's preference for Hybrids vs Pure Electrics, and worked out the numbers. Turns out at a large scale, the carbon savings is better on Hybrids.

That is nonsense except in areas where electricity is generated by burning coal and also assumes that the massive transition away from carbon-intensive electricity generation is not occurring.
Sounds like Toyota propaganda to me too, davester.

It came to light recently that Toyota is much more vested in a hybrid future than a pure EV one - this sounds like the kind of misinformation the company might feed into the marketplace to garner more support for their position. I'm sad a company like Toyota would engage in deceptive practices like this.
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vision63 wrote:
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Toyota says "We're focused on being the world's number one automaker." When they do sell all electric, I'm pretty sure they'll be number one at that too. People prefer cars that last a long long time without breaking.
A position they gave up to VW in 2018. And Daimler, at #3 is snapping at their heels.
https://www.carlogos.org/reviews/largest...anies.html
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MrNoBody wrote:
[quote=vision63]
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Toyota says "We're focused on being the world's number one automaker." When they do sell all electric, I'm pretty sure they'll be number one at that too. People prefer cars that last a long long time without breaking.
A position they gave up to VW in 2018. And Daimler, at #3 is snapping at their heels.
https://www.carlogos.org/reviews/largest...anies.html
I saw that list when I checked. All the other lists I checked has Toyota selling the most vehicles.
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N-OS X-tasy! wrote:
[quote=davester]
[quote=Rolando]Alex on Autos talked abut Toyota's preference for Hybrids vs Pure Electrics, and worked out the numbers. Turns out at a large scale, the carbon savings is better on Hybrids.

That is nonsense except in areas where electricity is generated by burning coal and also assumes that the massive transition away from carbon-intensive electricity generation is not occurring.
Sounds like Toyota propaganda to me too, davester.

It came to light recently that Toyota is much more vested in a hybrid future than a pure EV one - this sounds like the kind of misinformation the company might feed into the marketplace to garner more support for their position. I'm sad a company like Toyota would engage in deceptive practices like this.
Sad, but I think you're right. I am researching my next vehicle purchase, and right now I can't find one I like. An all-electric Tundra would be high on the list. Hybrid? While it is "the best of both worlds", it's also the worst of both. I'll probably stick with gas unless I can find a solid electric option.
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