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[quote Hibidder]I allowed him his defense that he was "taken out of context" so I downloaded the entire sermon(s) in podcast form.......
The "context" was worse than even the little bits I have heard. There was naked race-hatred, hatred of the
US and its Laws and the Constitution, blame whitey for everything, all the time. And, oh, yeah, we are owed!
No amount of context can justify shouting "G__ D___ America!" - particularly with such joy and enthusiasm.
Pay up, sucka. Reparations Now!
I think this post offers good food for thought. It's exemplary of the mindset of those who will never vote for Obama. And also of those who Obama thinks he can appease by distancing himself from Wright. And as such, evidence that distancing himself is the wrong approach.
Initially I thought the "Race" speech was sort of a score, and that BO was standing up for himself, but I'm reminded of the extent to which I've been allowing myself to embrace milquetoast and mediocrity, and feeling like BO's not got the spine to win my support.
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>>feeling like BO's not got the spine to win my support.
Please share with us whom you feel has the most spine.
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Not that hoho's fickle or shallow or anything like that...
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[quote mattkime]>>feeling like BO's not got the spine to win my support.
Please share with us whom you feel has the most spine.
I didn't say any of them do. What's your opinion?
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[quote lafinfil]As he was pointing out, we (the USA) had in the past treated many of it's lesser poorly.
"Lesser"??
Racist statement.
As you can see, most folks don't realize when they are making racist/hatred statements.
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I'm watching Wright giving a speech at NAACP dinner in Detroit, being broadcast right now, making the case that African-American children have a "different way of learning", subject vs. object-oriented learning (anyone seen this?) racist nonsense that if a white person said he'd be crucified, but at an NAACP dinner, is probably considered normal or tame. None of this has anything to do with Obama, of course, but on his own, Wright is an annoying and divisive figure.
From Slate Magazine:
"Rev. Jeremiah Wright, the recently retired pastor of Barack Obama's church in Chicago. Here is the form that the reverend's "retirement" will take: a $1.6 million home, purchased in the name of his church and consisting of more than 10,000 square feet, in a gated community in Tinley Park, a prosperous white section of the city. There used to be a secularist line about fat shepherds and thin sheep, but the joke here is not just at the expense of a man who never pretended to be much more than a hustler. The joke is on those of the "flock" who tithed themselves to achieve this level of comfort for a man who must be pinching himself when he wakes up every day."
So we're supposed to think Wright is a modest and reasonable, well-spoken guy, because a prestigious outspoken Leftist ideologue journalist like Bill Moyers offered him a flattering showcase on his broadcast? Did we expect Bill Moyers to do anything less than give Wright a format to look good in?
I'm sure we'd all like to retire as comfortably as Wright, in a 1.6 million-dollar home, paid for by his admiring congregation.
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Show me a semi-famous preacher that doesn't live in a million+ home.
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[quote BigGuynRusty][quote lafinfil]As he was pointing out, we (the USA) had in the past treated many of it's lesser poorly.
"Lesser"??
Racist statement.
As you can see, most folks don't realize when they are making racist/hatred statements.
BGnR
One can only guess RGnR is being facetious, though "lesser" isn't the best word choice, seemed clear enough to me that he meant "less fortunate" (disadvantaged, etc.) and there's no question that American history has plenty of contradictions here.
How charitable and generous we are, how well we as a society treat the less fortunate (poor, hungry, sick, elderly, disadvantaged etc.) is more of a moral and social question than a legal or political one.
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Dennis- how about this one ?
I ran through one of his biographies recently. An impressive gentleman who has NOT made it his mission to personally prosper from God.
Or this lady, who lives quite simply in a Nun's cell:
Religious people aren't all Jimmy and Tammy Lee, you know. Some of them really get it, and really mean it.
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The Slate article I referenced was actually an article about Martin Luther King's legacy, and how the current generation of hustlers and pretenders-to-the-throne can't hold a candle to giants like King.
Needless to say, King was an example of semi-famous minister who didn't live in a million+ dollar 10,000 sq. ft. home (even if he'd lived long enough to retire) and I imagine the idea of using church funds to purchase private property and material comfort for retired clergy would be offensive to his generation of leaders.
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