01-28-2010, 05:57 PM
Wow. Ok. There appears to be some misunderstandings in this thread...
You guys are both citing video problems as problems with Flash. This is like citing Safari for problems with Flash. There isn't a Flash video codec. All Flash provides is a wrapper for third party video codecs. The problem is, the most commonly used codecs are processor intensive.
The Lifehacker link talks about GPU acceleration. Chances are they're using DirectX since almost no one develops in assembly anymore.
H.264 is playback intensive no matter what you're on. Apple is notorious for putting slow video cards into their systems. They're generally a generation behind. So including GPU acceleration for Macs doesn't make a ton of sense.
It would be interesting to see how Flash H.264 compares to Silverlight H.264 with the same quality video. Comparing Hulu to Netflix is pointless.
Not even close. CSS & HTML 5 only partially replace what Flash offers. To use your comparison, the absence of Flash today looks a lot like a optical disc drive-less computer would have in 1998.
silvarios wrote:
Here's a non Adobe link (Lifehacker) if you are interested. h.264 acceleration only works on Windows Flash.
Nathan
Forrest wrote:
Flash 10.0 and prior versions is not well optimized for Windows either. Even on Hulu's lowest quality setting, it stumbles a lot on 1.6 GHz Intel Atom based Netbook running Windows XP.
You guys are both citing video problems as problems with Flash. This is like citing Safari for problems with Flash. There isn't a Flash video codec. All Flash provides is a wrapper for third party video codecs. The problem is, the most commonly used codecs are processor intensive.
The Lifehacker link talks about GPU acceleration. Chances are they're using DirectX since almost no one develops in assembly anymore.
H.264 is playback intensive no matter what you're on. Apple is notorious for putting slow video cards into their systems. They're generally a generation behind. So including GPU acceleration for Macs doesn't make a ton of sense.
It would be interesting to see how Flash H.264 compares to Silverlight H.264 with the same quality video. Comparing Hulu to Netflix is pointless.
deckeda wrote:
Flash has marketplace inertia. Apple doesn't care. They know better solutions exist: smartly done CSS for navigation, HTML 5 for online videos. Given that as Jobs said, their mobile devices are so popular, they are in a position to move people out of the stone age.
The absence of Flash today looks a lot like a floppy disk-less computer did in 1998: like an oversight of a tremendously useful thing that everyone will forget about within a few years.
Not even close. CSS & HTML 5 only partially replace what Flash offers. To use your comparison, the absence of Flash today looks a lot like a optical disc drive-less computer would have in 1998.