01-30-2010, 12:15 AM
Article Accelerator wrote:
[quote=M A V I C]
The way AA is doing it, he's getting a different file, thus the comparison is not accurate.
That's true but not particularly important as far as I'm concerned. Unlike the embedded Flash video, the H.264 version looks at least as good and plays perfectly. Interestingly, H.264 is known to be quite processor intensive. It therefore boggles the mind to imagine how bad the Flash plug-in and/or Flash video encoding and/or Flash video container is...
You're comparing apples to oranges yet you're not concerned? Flash is just a wrapper. H.264 is a format. Flash can be a wrapper for multiple formats, including H.264. For the YouTube example given, they're not using H.264. It boils down to how the content provider encodes their format for Flash, not if they choose to use Flash or not.
H.264 can also cause the exact same issues you're describing about Flash. Just as you can cite H.264 versions that don't cause issues, I can cite Flash versions that don't cause issues.
Winston wrote:
Ho! Found a workaround. If I don't whitelist YouTube I get the ClickToFlash placeholder in place of a YouTube video window.
I can then use the ClickToFlash options from the CTF "gear" menu in the top left of the video window. If I click on "Play Fullscreen in QuickTime Player" it opens in QuickTime Player and plays well. This works whether I have CTF set for Flash or h.264 video.
I can watch YouTube again!
But it really shouldn't be necessary to jump through all these hoops. If QuickTime Player can play a YouTube video well, in full screen, on an old TiBook, it should work just as well in Safari in a smaller window.
Further evidence to the contrary, I blame Flash.
- Winston
You've got too much installed for me to figure out what's going on. I find it said you blame Flash yet you've got a bunch of third-party stuff installed that has been causing conflicts. Those could easily be causing problems with playback.
As far as being able to watch "YouTube" fine with QT but not with Flash, I don't know how else to put it. YouTube provides multiple content formats. FLV can be a wrapper around multiple formats.
Not only that, but in the YouTube example the .FLV that plays is being modified as it plays. They're actually stretching the video which can be harder to play that if it was higher res to begin with. So if you have the FLV playing locally from just the Flash Player, it could very well have better playback than how it's embedded in YouTube.
In the example you gave, the FLV is 320x240 yet the player in the browser is scaling it to 480px wide.