10-06-2010, 03:02 PM
Dakota wrote:
[quote=$tevie]
When someone has to start accusing everyone of lying, it means he has lost the argument
What if he is right? You went along with the argument that healthcare reform is going to control costs. 0Bama was touting that at every stop. You heard that and you also heard all the new mandates he was was going to impose but you never asked how both could be done. What does that make you? Lier, accomplice, naive, stupid, blind? You tell me.
If the plan Obama first put forward would have passed - especially with the Public Option - then there would have been much quicker and better cost controls. But in an effort to first get Republican and the Blue Dog Democrat support, they bargained away the Public Option and most of the other features that would have best contained costs. To get the insurance companies to sign on, they had to put in the mandatory coverage requirement (without a Public Option that is the only way private insurers could afford to cover people with pre-existing conditions, for example). Thus the bill that finally passed congress is mostly about getting tens of millions of people covered that previously could not get coverage. The best cost containment elements of Obama's original plan were scrapped due to insistence by conservatives. Incidentally, I've explained this to you before.