They aren’t astronauts

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hal wrote:
astronauts is fine with me...

Same here. They would have died just as dead as anyone else if there was a bad enough glitch in these still experimental vehicles.

There’s evidence that at least some, if not all, of them are considerably less than saintly. At the same time I wouldn’t cast any of them as true monsters.

From where I sit, there’s a degree of unclinching that could be done on this subject. The death wishes and the like I’m seeing many places is over the top.