Sony DCR-HC52 or Flip Video?

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How about one of these?

http://www.amazon.com/Aiptek-DV4500-Pock...B0001GT30Q
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=DV-DM1-VP-RB-R&cat=CAM

also saw these for sale on a forum:

- Canon ZR800 SD camcorder: $100 (2 months old)

- JVC Everio GZ-MG130 30GB HDD Camcorder NIB $225 shipped
34x optical and 30gb HD

http://support.jvc.com/consumer/product....MODL027853&pathId=119&page=1&archive=true
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