12-09-2008, 04:49 AM
>>The real-life situation is not that simple, but the principle is the same. The principle here is that just because thing x occurs in a certain way y, one cannot say that something which occurs in way y will be thing x.
Yes Greg, a symmetrical relationship. You're assuming I'm a knob. Where did someone assert that it's a symmetrical relationship (the terrorists we're worried about are muslim, therefore all muslims are terrorists)? Someone may have, but I didn't see it.
You are constructing a model of the terrorist situation. You're making the complex situation fit your simple model, rather than developing a reasonable model. How does it explain why it's stupid to strip search a 90yr old grandmother? It doesn't. To get a half decent model, you'd have to weight this or that, add more variables, etc. For example, if you are searching people, you might want to pay particular attention to Swampy's demographic. Not exclusive attention, just more attention. Paying more attention to them doesn't mean you think they're all guilty, but you've got limited resources, and you need to spend them wisely. Spending hours on 90yr old grandmas doesn't make any sense. Right? You want to cut that pool of people who is likely to be a terrorist down to as small a number as you can. That said, if people decide it's unethical to do this, that's fine. But you can't say it's illogical. kj.
Yes Greg, a symmetrical relationship. You're assuming I'm a knob. Where did someone assert that it's a symmetrical relationship (the terrorists we're worried about are muslim, therefore all muslims are terrorists)? Someone may have, but I didn't see it.
You are constructing a model of the terrorist situation. You're making the complex situation fit your simple model, rather than developing a reasonable model. How does it explain why it's stupid to strip search a 90yr old grandmother? It doesn't. To get a half decent model, you'd have to weight this or that, add more variables, etc. For example, if you are searching people, you might want to pay particular attention to Swampy's demographic. Not exclusive attention, just more attention. Paying more attention to them doesn't mean you think they're all guilty, but you've got limited resources, and you need to spend them wisely. Spending hours on 90yr old grandmas doesn't make any sense. Right? You want to cut that pool of people who is likely to be a terrorist down to as small a number as you can. That said, if people decide it's unethical to do this, that's fine. But you can't say it's illogical. kj.