9/11 plead guilty! Amazing

[mikeylikesit]

BigGuynRusty wrote:
[quote=Black Landlord]
I can't speak for anyone else, but as a card-carrying BHL I can share my perspective, and it goes like this:
Trying, sentencing, torturing people without process is not the american way. It's something our founding fathers tried to move beyond. That our government thinks it's OK makes it hard for many of us to be "proud" at the moment.

America has done torture since way back, it is not new.
We tortured the Japanese during WWII.
We tortured the Koreans during the Korean War.
We tortured during the "Vietnam Conflict".
It shames me that my country has done this.

BGnR
What a country does and what it officially espouses are never the same thing. Never before this administration have we allowed that we use torture as a weapon and that it's use is permissible.

They were on their way to actually codifying the use of torture before the floor fell out from under them.