12-10-2008, 05:57 PM
What BG and Mikey said. Actions speak louder than official policy.
CIA used to push prisoners out of helicopters at high altitude in Vietnam. Well, actually, I believe it was over the ocean. You get the idea. Still, nothing says Democracy and American "Judeo-Christian" Values like rants about putting "terrorists" in the homes of those who happen to be against ill treatment and sham trials of prisoners, no matter who those prisoners are. Did it ever occur to you, Swampy, to hold yourself and your nation to a higher standard, the standard, um...that ah...er...we were founded upon? That would be honor, integrity, justice and following our own US Constitution as we are a nation of LAWS? Giggle-giggle, I didn't think so.
The other thing your brilliant mind (the light it constantly gives off blinds me even through my MacBook screen!) forgets, Swampy, is that a lot of the Gitmo guests are innocents shoveled off their own sidewalks by their own governments, "rendered" to cheery places like Syria to be tortured with a wink and a nod from our current idiots in charge...hey wait a sec, hasn't Syria been on the Bushit list for a number of years as a terrorist-supporting state? Whoops, I guess that was a Freudian slip!
And then we take them in at places like Gitmo and Abu Ghraib, refuse them due process and do horrid things to them. That is a great way to serve as a beacon of democracy, fairness and freedom. And/or Christianity! Yes, let's have more minds just like YOURS leading our nation further into the abyss! Brilliant!
For starters on what some of these "terrorists," really are, look at the Canadian who recently won a major lawsuit against his government for LYING about him and turning him over to the "intelligence experts" in our guvmint. He was tortured unspeakably in Syria for several months and held in a small pen in the ground, among other horrors. He is finally free now. What of the rest of those like him?
Another case: look at the INNOCENT Chinese Muslims who have been in the news the past few months. Kidnapped, jailed, tortured -- for practicing their own religion and doing it peacefully to boot. Via inconvenience, malice and/or incompetence, these INNOCENT people AND THEIR FAMILIES have all had their lives destroyed by AND I'LL SHOUT IT OUT LOUD SO YOU CAN SEE AND HEAR IT, SWAMPS: TERRORISTS IN OUR OWN US of A GOVERNMENT. SAHHHH-LOOOOT! Boy, aren't we soooo proud of our guvmint right now? SAHHH-LOOOT!
Yeah, kill all them "terurists!" Wish 'em dead! Squeeze their heads right off! Somebody get me a pitchfork and a torch, maybe a noose and some electrodes, quick-like!
Good idea, Wags, time to go hand some dinero to the ACLU, EFF, etc.
CIA used to push prisoners out of helicopters at high altitude in Vietnam. Well, actually, I believe it was over the ocean. You get the idea. Still, nothing says Democracy and American "Judeo-Christian" Values like rants about putting "terrorists" in the homes of those who happen to be against ill treatment and sham trials of prisoners, no matter who those prisoners are. Did it ever occur to you, Swampy, to hold yourself and your nation to a higher standard, the standard, um...that ah...er...we were founded upon? That would be honor, integrity, justice and following our own US Constitution as we are a nation of LAWS? Giggle-giggle, I didn't think so.
The other thing your brilliant mind (the light it constantly gives off blinds me even through my MacBook screen!) forgets, Swampy, is that a lot of the Gitmo guests are innocents shoveled off their own sidewalks by their own governments, "rendered" to cheery places like Syria to be tortured with a wink and a nod from our current idiots in charge...hey wait a sec, hasn't Syria been on the Bushit list for a number of years as a terrorist-supporting state? Whoops, I guess that was a Freudian slip!
And then we take them in at places like Gitmo and Abu Ghraib, refuse them due process and do horrid things to them. That is a great way to serve as a beacon of democracy, fairness and freedom. And/or Christianity! Yes, let's have more minds just like YOURS leading our nation further into the abyss! Brilliant!
For starters on what some of these "terrorists," really are, look at the Canadian who recently won a major lawsuit against his government for LYING about him and turning him over to the "intelligence experts" in our guvmint. He was tortured unspeakably in Syria for several months and held in a small pen in the ground, among other horrors. He is finally free now. What of the rest of those like him?
Another case: look at the INNOCENT Chinese Muslims who have been in the news the past few months. Kidnapped, jailed, tortured -- for practicing their own religion and doing it peacefully to boot. Via inconvenience, malice and/or incompetence, these INNOCENT people AND THEIR FAMILIES have all had their lives destroyed by AND I'LL SHOUT IT OUT LOUD SO YOU CAN SEE AND HEAR IT, SWAMPS: TERRORISTS IN OUR OWN US of A GOVERNMENT. SAHHHH-LOOOOT! Boy, aren't we soooo proud of our guvmint right now? SAHHH-LOOOT!
Yeah, kill all them "terurists!" Wish 'em dead! Squeeze their heads right off! Somebody get me a pitchfork and a torch, maybe a noose and some electrodes, quick-like!
Good idea, Wags, time to go hand some dinero to the ACLU, EFF, etc.