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Who is the worst President ever?
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michaelb wrote:
If effectiveness is factored in, he had a strong agenda, and steamrolled the democratics and all opposition in implementing that agenda to a large part.

Excuse me, but did you just state here that the democrats basically laid over for Bush because he was "stronger" than them? Are we stating that democrats are basically spineless politicians when it comes to a political juggernaut such as Dick Cheney and George W. Bush?




Gutenberg wrote:
The United States of America never endorsed torture of prisoners till Bush & Co. took office, and the administration endorsed torture over the objections of the heads of all four of the armed services. No democracy has ever simply decided to ignore the Geneva Conventions--and the United States is the caretaker of the signed documents! So when you add to that the warrantless wiretapping of citizens, national security letters, domestic spying, the immoral and completely unnecessary war in Iraq, the decline of our international reputation and the collapse of the economy, should that raise the idea in some peoples' minds that Bush is not a very good president?


Whatever the case about Cheney/Bush may be, the fact still remains that the democrats were instrumental in everything you've stated above.

When push came to shove, the democrats gave their stamp of approval time and time again. Consider the USA PATRIOT Act that paved the way for everything you stated above - democrats were part and parcel of that which has destroyed our nation.

re: my post here:
http://forums.macresource.com/read.php?2,627552


You know, truth be told, I really have no issue with anyone taking a liberal or conservative stance on our nation. However, let's not pretend that one party is somehow "better" than the other, or that our situation today isn't because of the wrongs and misdeeds of both parties.
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Who is the worst President ever? - by Gutenberg - 12-19-2008, 01:38 PM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by kap - 12-19-2008, 01:44 PM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by billb - 12-19-2008, 02:18 PM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by swampy - 12-19-2008, 02:23 PM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by Dakota - 12-19-2008, 02:29 PM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by Doc - 12-19-2008, 02:46 PM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by Dakota - 12-19-2008, 02:55 PM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by Dakota - 12-19-2008, 02:59 PM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by $tevie - 12-19-2008, 03:32 PM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by $tevie - 12-19-2008, 03:59 PM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by BCam - 12-19-2008, 05:03 PM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by swampy - 12-19-2008, 05:13 PM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by Dakota - 12-19-2008, 07:40 PM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by Dakota - 12-19-2008, 07:57 PM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by $tevie - 12-19-2008, 07:59 PM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by Dakota - 12-19-2008, 08:16 PM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by $tevie - 12-19-2008, 08:21 PM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by $tevie - 12-19-2008, 08:22 PM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by $tevie - 12-19-2008, 08:31 PM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by swampy - 12-19-2008, 08:54 PM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by Dakota - 12-19-2008, 09:57 PM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by Mac-A-Matic - 12-19-2008, 10:13 PM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by swampy - 12-19-2008, 10:39 PM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by Rick-o - 12-19-2008, 10:40 PM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by $tevie - 12-20-2008, 12:30 AM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by MacGurl - 12-20-2008, 12:41 AM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by MacGurl - 12-20-2008, 12:46 AM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by Doc - 12-20-2008, 11:44 AM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by Dakota - 12-20-2008, 08:19 PM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by $tevie - 12-20-2008, 08:23 PM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by Dakota - 12-20-2008, 10:28 PM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by $tevie - 12-20-2008, 10:54 PM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by $tevie - 12-20-2008, 11:23 PM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by Dakota - 12-21-2008, 12:19 AM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by Dakota - 12-21-2008, 01:31 AM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by Dakota - 12-21-2008, 03:15 AM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by Dakota - 12-21-2008, 04:32 PM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by Dakota - 12-21-2008, 11:05 PM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by Wags - 12-22-2008, 05:04 PM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by MacGurl - 12-22-2008, 05:56 PM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by Wags - 12-22-2008, 06:06 PM
Re: Who is the worst President ever? - by DaviDC. - 12-23-2008, 04:20 AM

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