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Ouch: 5 years for text-messaging causing vehicular-manslaughter
#11
Logically speaking, it should be treated like...

...any other negligent activity, with punishment appropriate to any resulting actions.

Texting is illegal in CA, along with holding an electronic device. There is a demographic around here that holds a cellphone while using it as a speakerphone. Some believe that's legal, others do so to hide it quickly when The Man is around.

CA blew it big time making using a cellphone without hands-free gear no more consequential that a pricey parking ticket. Even then, most people didn't know that the ticket was pricey until they got one. Texting wasn't specifically addressed either. Not much of a deterrent.

Both activities should have been treated as moving violations with convictions adding points to their driving record.

It took many, many years for CA as well as many other states to recognize drunk driving as a irresponsible criminal act rather than merely an "unfortunate" by product of just having "a couple of beers".

It's good to see they're moving a little faster in the digital age (though that took years, too).

Interesting that she was responsible for the death of a motorcyclist. When I ride, I often see people with their phone in their right hand, that hand on their leg (presumably keeping the phone out of sight) and looking down at the phone to read, and sometimes time.

In the city, I split lanes at stop lights and occasionally as I roll up along side a car, I'll see the driver hide his/her cellphone.

I'm glad the girl was in custody from the time of the killing, and I think five years is a very small price to pay for negligence resulting in the death of another.

Had the two drivers been acting in concert to commit a felony, the girl could be facing a life sentence. As the motorcyclist was merely an innocent victim, see gets only five years.

By the by, I'd feel the same of the victim was a bicyclist or the driver of an SUV, or anything in between.
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#12
And I don't text while driving. Ever.

I can change my radio station by touch, as with the A/C. And if I had to scratch, I could do that without looking away, either.

Using Siri has never occurred to me. If I hear my text tone, can I ask Siri to "Read my latest text" without picking up the 'Phone and navigating to the text? That would be cool.

Siri does a better job of calling people than the previous voice menu did. There is a lot of potential in voice control and I hope Apple exploits it to the fullest.
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#13
(vikm) wrote:
I text...

...It's not different (for me personally) than changing the music that's playing in the car or adjusting the temp or whatever.

If you believe that then I've got a bridge to sell you.
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#14
RAMd®d wrote:
Both activities should have been treated as moving violations with convictions adding points to their driving record.

I couldn't agree more. You can get points on your record if you're passed out drunk in the back seat of your car, sleeping it off instead of driving home, but no points for texting while driving? Crazy.

Car crashes kill more than 35,000 Americans every year.
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#15
(vikm) wrote:
It's not different (for me personally) than changing the music that's playing in the car or adjusting the temp or whatever.



People who drink and drive have similarly convinced themselves of their holy capabilities.


It's not wise to be doing for even the remote possibility of causing an accident.
It's not wise to be doing for the likelyhood of being blamed for having caused an accident.


All those other activities have been cited as distractions leading at least in part to having caused an accident, too. Texting can be proven. The other distractions, not so much.



Too many a-holes on the road to let one of them scr*w ya, and they will.
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#16
My wife just got a $110 ticket for texting whilst stopped at a red light.
She didn't pull away in a timely fashion when the light turned green and a cop saw her and she was ticketed. Essentially, in terms of the danger involved, she could have been looking at a map, or doing any one of a 1000 other things that causes people to not pull away the instant a light turns green. Needless to say she will not be texting in a car again, unless she is pulled over with the engine turned off!
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#17
the reason why there are specific laws being passed against texting while driving is not because they're needed from a logic standpoint - distracted driving laws should cover that just fine. however, police and courts have a devilishly hard time trying to care about these things.

in many places you can be ridiculously negligent but as long as you don't have any alcohol in your system then its just an "accident." elderly person hit in a crosswalk? accident!

people want to drive without being responsible but at some point we have to justify needless lives being lost.
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#18
Manlove wrote:
My wife just got a $110 ticket for texting whilst stopped at a red light.
She didn't pull away in a timely fashion when the light turned green and a cop saw her and she was ticketed. Essentially, in terms of the danger involved, she could have been looking at a map, or doing any one of a 1000 other things that causes people to not pull away the instant a light turns green. Needless to say she will not be texting in a car again, unless she is pulled over with the engine turned off!

ug... and tickets are more likely to be handed out when its easy rather than when someone is actually doing something reckless....
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#19
No texting while driving had to happen -- its how 99% of all teenagers -20 somethings communicate -- and the age group with the largest amount of accidents.

one less thing for them to be preoccupied with.

turning a station, or upping the AC takes far less time than texting.
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#20
RAMd®d wrote:

In the city, I split lanes at stop lights and occasionally as I roll up along side a car, I'll see the driver hide his/her cellphone.

And I'm also hopelessly aware of what's going on inside people's cars. Most of the time I wish I wasn't able to see.
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