Obama is the founder of ISIS

[samintx]

It is difficult and leave it up to historians to classify which of Trumps statements are the most vile or improper. I don't think any foreign powers are afraid of impotent Trump and so I still wonder if they (ISIS etc) won't try to verify the Obama award of ISIS merit just to mix things up and give the Trumpster more to talk about.

[Speedy]

Lemon Drop wrote: Could it be the water?

I've thought this for decades. It can't all be blamed on racism, poverty, poor funding of schools and healthcare, Southern Baptists and other hate groups, the heat or even feral hogs. But it can't be the freshwater so it has to be nearness to the Gulf although not everyone is affected, for example, Ombligo is half sane, possibly even more than half. But max…

[$tevie]

So Trump is going to skate on this 2nd Amendment thing. He knows how to jerk the liberal chains, and that saying Obama founded ISIS would get everyone riled up and reduce his comments about killing people to nothing more than the Trump-Outrage-of-the-Day. He's playing the media and he's playing us and everyone is helping him to do so by letting him control the daily headlines and by letting him lead us around by our noses.

[davester]

$tevie wrote:
So Trump is going to skate on this 2nd Amendment thing.

Absolutely. At the very minimum Trump is guilty of sedition in that he is inciting others to rebel against the state. I think a strong case could be made for treason since he is inciting others to murder a head of state. This stuff makes stupid statements about Obama heading ISIS pale by comparison.

se·di·tion

conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state or monarch.

trea·son

the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government.

[mrbigstuff]

What's worse, an ex moving from the oval office to IS or K Street...?

[Ombligo]

Lemon Drop wrote:

Maybe this is the year that Florida just doesn't matter that much in the election. I only know one person who says they are voting for Trump, and she lives in Tampa. Could it be the water?

Unfortunately, I fully expect Trump to carry my county (about 70-miles North or Tampa). All I see are Trump signs and bumper stickers. The support goes across the spectrum from trailer trash to attorneys and professionals.

Still, according to the latest forecasts, neither Florida nor Ohio will matter. At current forecast, Clinton needs only to win Michigan and Wisconsin to sew up the election. She is polling very well in both.

[pdq]

Ombligo wrote:
[quote=Lemon Drop]

Maybe this is the year that Florida just doesn't matter that much in the election. I only know one person who says they are voting for Trump, and she lives in Tampa. Could it be the water?

Unfortunately, I fully expect Trump to carry my county (about 70-miles North or Tampa). All I see are Trump signs and bumper stickers.
Wow! It's just like Peggy Noonan, when she called the Romney win in 2012 better than all those pointy-headed data guys like Nate Silver:

The Amazing PN: wrote:

All the vibrations are right...

There is no denying the Republicans have the passion now, the enthusiasm. The Democrats do not. Independents are breaking for Romney. And there’s the thing about the yard signs. In Florida a few weeks ago I saw Romney signs, not Obama ones. From Ohio I hear the same. From tony Northwest Washington, D.C., I hear the same.

...so it's not just all about polls, and...what? WHO won?

...Really?

Oh. Well, then.



Never mind.

[$tevie]

I don't think it's fair to mock the use of signs as an indicator of local leanings.

I knew Obama couldn't lose in 2012 when I was in Chincoteague, VA and saw signs for Obama and none for Romney. Anyone familiar with the Eastern Shore of MD and/or VA knows that this was a very bad omen for the Republicans!

[pdq]

$tevie wrote:
I don't think it's fair to mock the use of signs as an indicator of local leanings.

I know, and I hope I didn't come across as mean-spirited to Ombligo. I had just recently read again about Peggy Noonan's semi-famous lawn-sign forecasting for the 2012 election, and I couldn't help it...

[Numo]

I just don't understand how professional people, who supposedly have had the benefit of a college education can be so stupid about recognizing Trump's threat to our form of government, the fact that he is an impetuous egotist who could easily start a war, and that he is a vicious, outrageous serial liar.

Note that none of these liabilities have anything to do with political positions. They are all manifestations of Trump's character flaws. So how can anyone of any political persuasion want to put their own and their families lives at risk by supporting this dangerous looney?

Hate Hillary all you want, but she is light years less dangerous than Trump. I'm so disappointed by the Republican Party, especially in its cowardly leaders, and the ordinary people who say they will vote for him.