Keeping media focus on Trump is a deliberate Clinton strategy

[SteveG]

I can't listen to her any more. She keeps SHOUTING. Fortunately, when she's president, Clinton won't have to engage in podium pump-the-crowd theatrics. She's even worse than Kerry was.

[RgrF]

She doesn't have an orator's voice or speech inflections but then neither did Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson or Richard Nixon. They all managed.

[bazookaman]

RgrF wrote:
She doesn't have an orator's voice or speech inflections but then neither did Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson or Richard Nixon. They all managed.

At least she doesn't sound like a drunk 4th grader.

[Blurb]

Steve G. wrote:
I can't listen to her any more. She keeps SHOUTING. Fortunately, when she's president, Clinton won't have to engage in podium pump-the-crowd theatrics. She's even worse than Kerry was.

Her "shouting" is equivalent to the same shouting male presidential candidates (read Sanders, Trump, etc) do and have always done over loud crowd noises. Fox and Trump have only brought that up as a sexist disparagement. And you note it has been continued in the media by males complaining they cannot tolerate her shouting. It should also be noted that NEVER has anyone complained about a male presidential candidate shouting, even though they all have done so.

So, Steve G, your sexism is showing....

[SteveG]

Blurb wrote:
[quote=Steve G.]
I can't listen to her any more. She keeps SHOUTING. Fortunately, when she's president, Clinton won't have to engage in podium pump-the-crowd theatrics. She's even worse than Kerry was.

Her "shouting" is equivalent to the same shouting male presidential candidates (read Sanders, Trump, etc) do and have always done over loud crowd noises. Fox and Trump have only brought that up as a sexist disparagement. And you note it has been continued in the media by males complaining they cannot tolerate her shouting. It should also be noted that NEVER has anyone complained about a male presidential candidate shouting, even though they all have done so.

So, Steve G, your sexism is showing....
She has been doing this since her Senate run here in New York in 2000. She's a lousy campaign speaker with a tin ear for rhetoric.
Sanders sounded like an idiot when he began reaching the upper registers.

[pdq]

Lemon Drop wrote:
...the Republicans are going to be stuck with this "White America First" gang and will have to appease them for quite a while.

Well, they may be stuck with them in that (I hope) the Dems won't take them...but if this election turns out like it's looking today, there's going to be lots of P.O.ed establishment Republicans when the dust settles.

I suspect they'll decide that superdelegates aren't so bad, or they'll otherwise change the primary process so that this can't happen to them again. And while they won't kick the Tea Party and the Trumpsters out, I'll bet they won't be in any mood to "appease" the folks that brought this mess down on their heads.

[SteveG]

pdq wrote:
I'll bet they won't be in any mood to "appease" the folks that brought this mess down on their heads.

I'll bet they are going to be surprised that their party mostly consists of "the Tea Party and the Trumpsters". The GOP worked decades to build this constituency.

Time for them to recognize their own identity.

[RgrF]

SuperDelegates, as the Dems arranged them, were a lousy system and need to be abolished. God forbid that anyone but the anointed elite should have a voice in the nominating process.

[hal]

Her shouting annoys me too - and I realize that it's just because historically, woman haven't been shouters. I'm not used to it and I find it annoying WHILE realizing that it's just my own prejudice. However, it's not a factor that I consider when considering here ability to be prez.

BTW, Howard Dean plummeted from front runner status because of over exuberance on stage - remember?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6i-gYRAwM0

Blurb wrote:
[quote=Steve G.]
I can't listen to her any more. She keeps SHOUTING. Fortunately, when she's president, Clinton won't have to engage in podium pump-the-crowd theatrics. She's even worse than Kerry was.

Her "shouting" is equivalent to the same shouting male presidential candidates (read Sanders, Trump, etc) do and have always done over loud crowd noises. Fox and Trump have only brought that up as a sexist disparagement. And you note it has been continued in the media by males complaining they cannot tolerate her shouting. It should also be noted that NEVER has anyone complained about a male presidential candidate shouting, even though they all have done so.

So, Steve G, your sexism is showing....

[$tevie]

I can readily understand how Clinton could be found to be an uninspiring speaker, however too often the criticisms of her speaking include terms like shouting or shrill or loud which really are part of the same list that include bitch and pushy.