Shooter copycat - Missouri WalMart, No shots fired, Perp in custody

[Speedy]

deckeda wrote:
Seems like they don’t know what to do with him yet. The claims of him causing chaos amount to a charge of disturbing the peace. If his video and related interviews indicate menacing behavior the charge gets upped. Wouldn’t be surprised if everything he said to everyone was nice and cordial, to “prove” he’s a good guy.

One of the Russian-NRA’s good guy with a gun.

[deckeda]

Hilarious how he videoed everything on his phone "for his protection" but later, after being on the ground and uncomfortable asked to be able to get up and walk around instead. And then worried about his phone battery dying.

I think these people just create their own realities like it's no big deal.

[Filliam H. Muffman]

It's sad that Walmart* is cracking down on video games but not even a hint of remorse at selling guns and ammo.

[deckeda]

Filliam H. Muffman wrote:
It's sad that Walmart* is cracking down on video games but not even a hint of remorse at selling guns and ammo.

What they're doing is temporarily hoping people aren't reminded of reality.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technolog...es-stores/

"According to the memo, Walmart stores were told:

Turn off or unplug any video game consoles that show a demo of violent games, specifically PlayStation and Xbox units;

Cancel any events promoting combat-style or third-person shooter games that may be scheduled in Electronics;

Verify that no movies depicting violence are playing in Electronics;

Turn off any hunting season videos that may be playing in Sporting Goods, and remove any monitors or displays that show the videos;

Check all signing throughout the store and remove any referencing combat or third-person shooter video games."

It's a knee-jerk response that further scapegoats video games despite the lack of evidence they turn people into killers. This piece, written by a player and programmer, does however highlight how gamer culture can indeed be toxic: https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/v...story.html

What that piece lacked is an inclusion of how the culture also plays into the Qanon conspiracy. It also describes real deaths as if game "kills."

[SteveO]

No domestic terrorism laws on the books. STILL. He'll walk scot-free. How long did it take for the Patriot Act to get passed...this was, over what, a thousand pages of law? Just googled, took about 6 weeks. Yet we've had this same white supremacist and/or just fsckin crazy-ass terrorist human target gallery scenario over and over for years now. Hell, go back to McVeigh in what, '95 or so? 25+ years now. And still....nothing.

#MassacreMitch

[SteveO]

SteveO wrote:
No domestic terrorism laws on the books. STILL. He'll walk scot-free. How long did it take for the Patriot Act to get passed...this was, over what, a thousand pages of law? Just googled, took about 6 weeks. Yet we've had this same white supremacist and/or just fsckin crazy-ass terrorist human target gallery scenario over and over for years now. Hell, go back to McVeigh in what, '95 or so? 25+ years now. And still....nothing.

#MassacreMitch

Doing some more research on this, it looks like there are in many cases (all? IDK) sufficient laws on the books to go after domestic terrorists. Apparently they're not applied with the same consistency to domestics as they are to internationals. And that's just one aspect of the issue, although certainly colossal:

The way the Justice Department has applied the controversial material support law, which criminalizes providing assistance to terrorists, is a good example of the double standard officials apply to right-wing extremists compared to extremists with international ideologies.

Since 9/11, the Justice Department has used the material support law only once against a right-wing extremist — an engineer who built a remote control for a white supremacist’s radiological weapon. By contrast, during that same period, federal prosecutors charged more than 400 terrorists with international ideologies with material support, in some cases for offenses involving nothing more than talk and driving to an airport.

https://theintercept.com/2019/08/08/el-p...terrorism/

[RgrF]

We're still taking our shoes off at airports, that must be working no one's taken a plan down using a shoe since.