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[RAMd®d]

I don't get why they keep working there. I've has some major jackass bosses. You only get to treat me like crap for so long.


As previously stated above, I think it boils down to job security.

Hollywood is made of a lot of networking, and leaving a job because of a predatory boss or coworker and saying something about it, can mean killing one's career, especially for a woman.

"You'll never work in this town again!'

A whistle blower is most likely to be branded a complainer and liar, which may or may not be true, and thus be consider a liability if hired.

So it doesn't surprise me at all, that there are people who "love" Whedon.

I've seen many domestic abuse victims back when, who didn't want to "press charges".

The drill was police responded to a call, saw the woman, beaten, bruised, scraped, (I personally never knew of a male victim), and a report made with pics taken of the injuries.

The suspect would be arrested, booked, and jailed, and usually released after making bail, and OR'ed by the courts.

The victim was then to go to the DA and file a complaint to actually charge the suspect with battery or aggravated assault.

But in actuality, the victim seldom had the attacker arrested, so no jail, no bail.

In most of the cases where the suspect was arrested, the victim wouldn't go to the DA, so charges were filed.

The universal reasons were "I love him, he promised to change" or "It'll just be worse for me when he gets out".

In either case, the victim chose to remain a victim for reasons most cops and legislators were not capable of understanding.

Eventually, CA enacted Domestic Violent laws where a cop is required to arrest a suspect when there's evidence of physical abuse, relieving the victim of some decision making, and often if not always resulting a charge of DV.

Someone physically beaten chooses to stay because they have no resources, and is often believed to be the cause, and is often fearful for their life, and in no small part emotionally cowed.

So it doesn't surprise me in the least that people would tend to stomach as much as they can, short of being beaten, to protect a career.

Then you have the Tinas of the world who leave their abuser a credit card and 36¢ and make a new life for themselves.

Not everyone can pull that off.

[vision63]

RAMd®d wrote:
I don't get why they keep working there. I've has some major jackass bosses. You only get to treat me like crap for so long.


As previously stated above, I think it boils down to job security.

Hollywood is made of a lot of networking, and leaving a job because of a predatory boss or coworker and saying something about it, can mean killing one's career, especially for a woman.

"You'll never work in this town again!'

A whistle blower is most likely to be branded a complainer and liar, which may or may not be true, and thus be consider a liability if hired.

So it doesn't surprise me at all, that there are people who "love" Whedon.

I've seen many domestic abuse victims back when, who didn't want to "press charges".

The drill was police responded to a call, saw the woman, beaten, bruised, scraped, (I personally never knew of a male victim), and a report made with pics taken of the injuries.

The suspect would be arrested, booked, and jailed, and usually released after making bail, and OR'ed by the courts.

The victim was then to go to the DA and file a complaint to actually charge the suspect with battery or aggravated assault.

But in actuality, the victim seldom had the attacker arrested, so no jail, no bail.

In most of the cases where the suspect was arrested, the victim wouldn't go to the DA, so charges were filed.

The universal reasons were "I love him, he promised to change" or "It'll just be worse for me when he gets out".

In either case, the victim chose to remain a victim for reasons most cops and legislators were not capable of understanding.

Eventually, CA enacted Domestic Violent laws where a cop is required to arrest a suspect when there's evidence of physical abuse, relieving the victim of some decision making, and often if not always resulting a charge of DV.

Someone physically beaten chooses to stay because they have no resources, and is often believed to be the cause, and is often fearful for their life, and in no small part emotionally cowed.

So it doesn't surprise me in the least that people would tend to stomach as much as they can, short of being beaten, to protect a career.

Then you have the Tinas of the world who leave their abuser a credit card and 36¢ and make a new life for themselves.

Not everyone can pull that off.

I get the reasons why people do what they do. Kids, houses etc. I needed my jobs just as much as they did if not more. At least cuss the m'fucka out. I've had actual fights. They should be "more" angry that they didn't step up for themselves. I can't stand bullies. People that take advantage of others need to get their asses handed to them.

[Blankity Blank]

vision63 wrote:
[quote=Blankity Blank]
It’s almost SOP for abusive personalities to keep a cadre of ‘He/She has always been great to me...’ deflectors at hand to gaslight and muddy the waters.

Having been raised by the type, I can tell you, you have to look beyond the smokescreen.

I don't get why they keep working there. I've has some major jackass bosses. You only get to treat me like crap for so long.
Keep in mind, for actors, depending on the project, it is ‘only for so long’.

These aren’t full time jobs, they’re projects that last months and then you move on, or at least have a good, long break. Grin, or at least bear it, for 3, 6, 8 months and the cheese at the end of the maze is a nice check with a healthy number of zeroes on it? Versus going head to head with your ‘genius’ boss who puts fat stacks in the company’s bank account?

It’s not hard to figure out where many, if not most, people are going to land on that one.

[vision63]

Blankity Blank wrote:
[quote=vision63]
[quote=Blankity Blank]
It’s almost SOP for abusive personalities to keep a cadre of ‘He/She has always been great to me...’ deflectors at hand to gaslight and muddy the waters.

Having been raised by the type, I can tell you, you have to look beyond the smokescreen.

I don't get why they keep working there. I've has some major jackass bosses. You only get to treat me like crap for so long.
Keep in mind, for actors, depending on the project, it is ‘only for so long’.

These aren’t full time jobs, they’re projects that last months and then you move on, or at least have a good, long break. Grin, or at least bear it, for 3, 6, 8 months and the cheese at the end of the maze is a nice check with a healthy number of zeroes on it? Versus going head to head with your ‘genius’ boss who puts fat stacks in the company’s bank account?

It’s not hard to figure out where many, if not most, people are going to land on that one.
We have to teach young people to stand up for themselves in real time. Look at the emotional, lifelong damage allowing someone to humiliate you has caused that young woman. As the old folk like to say "all money ain't good money."

[Sarcany]

vision63 wrote:
[quote=Blankity Blank]
It’s almost SOP for abusive personalities to keep a cadre of ‘He/She has always been great to me...’ deflectors at hand to gaslight and muddy the waters.

Having been raised by the type, I can tell you, you have to look beyond the smokescreen.

I don't get why they keep working there. I've has some major jackass bosses. You only get to treat me like crap for so long.
There's a reason why so many actors who have worked with him did so repeatedly on different projects.

Joss Whedon is brilliant and intense. He knows his sh!t. He throws himself into his work with a contagious passion. He inspires people around him to work harder and more creatively and he works harder than everyone else. He pulls talent out of people who are at best mediocre without him.

Those producers and assistant directors who work under him always seem to get some sort of creative inspiration that takes them to higher places. Better than even money that any fantasy TV show that you've enjoyed since "Buffy" has been produced by one of his protegees.

Put yourself in the position of an actor -- an artist. It's not just the paycheck. You're doing the best work of your life. And all you need to do for it is suffer some of the worst emotional abuse of your life.

[rjmacs]

And Woody Allen married his step-daughter.

:barf:

Sarcany wrote:
There's a reason why so many actors who have worked with him did so repeatedly on different projects.

Joss Whedon is brilliant and intense. He knows his sh!t. He throws himself into his work with a contagious passion. He inspires people around him to work harder and more creatively and he works harder than everyone else. He pulls talent out of people who are at best mediocre without him.

Those producers and assistant directors who work under him always seem to get some sort of creative inspiration that takes them to higher places. Better than even money that any fantasy TV show that you've enjoyed since "Buffy" has been produced by one of his protegees.

Put yourself in the position of an actor -- an artist. It's not just the paycheck. You're doing the best work of your life. And all you need to do for it is suffer some of the worst emotional abuse of your life.