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RgrF wrote:
Has NATO become the modern Neville Chamberlain?"
It's a weak analogy.
The rap on Neville is that he was cowed by the desolation of a recent (WWI) catastrophe and would do anything to avoid another such. This was probably true.
He wasn't faced with MAD - we are.
Yep. This is a whole different type of thing. It's like we're ignoring the path to this moment.
Ukraine would have become a member of NATO but for.... Russia would have suffered major sanctions for interfering in US elections but for... We effed that up and now Ukraine has hospitals being bombed while millions flee destruction.
Russia is being flattened with crippling sanctions. Putin game-planned all of this so he's prepared to overtake Ukraine. I hate to say this, but so far up to this point he's being nice about it. The more Ukraine resists, the harder it's gonna be. Putin has nothing to lose. If he were really smart, he'd withdraw because there's no way his people can endure these sanctions. Putin's problem is gonna be Russia. He needs to quit asap.
Moving forward, the only way to avoid this level of conflict (retaliate) is to make sure this (tfg and the like) never happens again. Hope the Russian people can take their country back without suffering too much.
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I don't think Poot is the fatalistic, sociopath that folks are making him to be in their minds, he's power mad and an extreme nationalist. And tjese attributes may lead to some bad decisions (in the interest of Russia) but I don't think he'll honestly challenge NATO by dropping nukes or invading Poland, for example. But he'll destroy Ukraine as much as he wants and we'll all watch and he knows that. And then he'll "negotiate" a cease fire that has him controlling large sections of the country
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mrbigstuff wrote:
I don't think Poot is the fatalistic, sociopath that folks are making him to be in their minds, he's power mad and an extreme nationalist. And tjese attributes may lead to some bad decisions (in the interest of Russia) but I don't think he'll honestly challenge NATO by dropping nukes or invading Poland, for example. But he'll destroy Ukraine as much as he wants and we'll all watch and he knows that. And then he'll "negotiate" a cease fire that has him controlling large sections of the country
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A former ambassador to either Russia or Ukraine said a No Fly Zone is a euphemism for a declaration of war. It means aerial combat.
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vision63 wrote:
If he were really smart, he'd withdraw because there's no way his people can endure these sanctions. Putin's problem is gonna be Russia. He needs to quit asap. ...
Hope the Russian people can take their country back without suffering too much.
yes. but that could be another reason for poo to retaliate when the Russian people chase his lot down. I don't think with all the olig $ behind him he has anything to lose or even gives a ...
power crazed old f'k
Just keep hoping I wake up and hear poo has been vanquished.
and the Russian peoples can piss on his grave.
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