dodge ball?!....Dodge replacing Charger & Challenger with new electric muscle car......

[TheTominator]

RAMd®d wrote:
It doesn't have to have a grille either.

But to be an eV it doesn't not have to have a grille.

Does having a functionally-useless grille feature on the EV have a negative effect on its air resistance and thus its power consumption?

Does the grille feature on an EV have a purpose other than aesthetics? There are potentially some air intake needs, e.g. AC/heatpump coils and battery and motor cooling.

[DeusxMac]

RAMd®d wrote:
With the phony exhaust sound and "grille" they're not really jumping in with both feet.

It doesn't have to have a grille either.

But to be an eV it doesn't not have to have a grille.

'Jumping in with both feet' doesn't mean forsaking design cues that represented required functions of ICE cars.

The result of not jumping in with both feet is a hybrid.

It has to look like an eV to be a real eV?

BS.

Leaving a big void where a grille used to be isn't a good design, to my eye, and being on an eV doesn't make it so.

Making a car look like Grams without his teeth is a design 'statement', but not a particularly good one.

Whether it's reto-chic or future now, I want don't want any car to have an unfinished look.

We thrashed this same topic about over three years ago...

It's now stood the test of time; these, and other rear- and mid-engined cars wouldn't make your cut because they don't have a fake grill.








https://forums.macresource.com/read.php?...sg-2347829

[RAMd®d]

We thrashed this same topic about over three years ago...


So what, it's 'settled law'?

BS.


It's now stood the test of time;


What the fsck is that supposed to mean?

You're choosing to ignore the points of my statements.

You're telling me what I can like and not like about design.

More BS.


these, and other rear- and mid-engined cars wouldn't make your cut because they don't have a fake grill.


More BS

You're reading a lot like another forumite who chooses to ignore and reinvent what others have said.


It doesn't have to have a grille either.

But to be an eV it doesn't not have to have a grille.

Making a car look like Grams without his teeth is a design 'statement', but not a particularly good one.

Whether it's reto-chic or future now, I want don't want any car to have an unfinished look.

That's what I wrote.


Again: these, and other rear- and mid-engined cars wouldn't make your cut because they don't have a fake grill.


No, two of those cars wouldn't make 'my cut' because I don't like the styling cue I outlined above.

It's not about having a fake grille, it's about designing a car with an unfinished look, like something is missing.

Design a vehicle that doesn't look like something is missing and I see no need for a styling cue such as a fake grille.


Does having a functionally-useless grille feature on the EV have a negative effect on its air resistance and thus its power consumption?


And I ask does having a functionally-useless grille feature on the EV have a significant negative effect on it's air resistance and power consumption?

Which really isn't my original point.

I didn't make this about eVs must have a fake grille.

I thought I was pretty clear about how I felt regarding design cues.

At some point, vehicle design may improve to my eye, on the points I addressed, such that there won't be a discussion like this.

If not, there may be another discussion, and the opportunity the chide me on my opinions on styling cues.

Until then, get the fsck off my lawn.

[TheTominator]

RAMd®d wrote:
And I ask does having a functionally-useless grille feature on the EV have a significant negative effect on it's air resistance and power consumption?

I'm curious about that too.
It addresses the issue about what freedom/constraints the EV designers have when they are trying to provide the required functionality.

Of course, that doesn't mean we shouldn't ask for an appealing design within those constraints.

[AllGold]

While EVs can be fast with a "linear acceleration" that produces astonishing 0-60 mph times, they often lack the driving dynamics that many performance car owners enjoy. It's a problem auto executives have privately been attempting to solve as the industry transitions to EVs.....


I'm still upset that my gasoline automobile doesn't have the driving dynamics of my old horse and buggy. :dunno:

[DeusxMac]

Some folks are probably still bemoaning the disappearance of automobiles with four distinct, separate-from-the-body fenders...

"They just don't look like real cars anymore since they designed the fenders out!"

A REAL car ("real" fenders!)




NOT a real car (NO "real" fenders.)

[RAMd®d]

Some folks are probably still bemoaning the disappearance of automobiles with four distinct, separate-from-the-body fenders...


As would be their preference, and their right to mention it if they felt like it.

Other people just wouldn't let that stand.

[DeusxMac]

RAMd®d wrote:
Some folks are probably still bemoaning the disappearance of automobiles with four distinct, separate-from-the-body fenders...

As would be their preference, and their right to mention it if they felt like it.

And other’s right to comment (agree, disagree, praise, criticize) about that preference “if they felt like it” -D