I hate car shopping

[graylocks]

Just went through this and am 3 weeks in on owning a Kia Niro PHEV. Purely on reliability rep I would have gone with a Toyota Prius Prime but even used the money did not make sense.

The Kia EV family made in South Korea (not the US) has good reliability street cred. At least give them a look. Lots of bang for the buck. I will miss my 2013 Volt dearly but it’s technology GM abandoned and getting a 2019 for my needs did not make sense.

[AllGold]

Rolando wrote:
[quote=AllGold]
GM also makes a few other EVs now like the Equinox EV or Blazer EV, but those only came out recently so there will be few if any available used. They also have the Cadillac Lyriq EV (Hello, Speedy) that's been around for several years so there should be some used.

I'm liking the GM EVs. Seem to be a good product at a good price. But one thing gives me pause.

They are a bespoke platform, not a converted one like the KIA Niro.

Given that, they have a really long hood, just as long as their ICE equivlents, but no frunk, Why?
The T*sla products have a shorter hood, but a have a frunk. The Ford Mach-E does as well,
The Hyundai/Kia Dedicated EVs do not, but they have a very short hood.

So if GM got something so basic about an EV wrong, what else did they get wrong?
I am really down on GM in general right now after the engine in the gas Equinox I had succumbed to design flaws (common problems across multiple models).

I don't know what to think of the Equinox EV. Obviously, it doesn't have a gas engine so that's good. It has a good range and is reasonably priced. But I have been monitoring an Equinox EV group and am seeing quirky problems which are a little too common so I don't think I trust GM on this.

[Speedy]

Because of your wife’s commute you will want her to pick out a pure EV.

[jdc]

Speedy wrote:
Because of your wife’s commute you will want her to pick out a pure EV.

I dunno if i could ever buy a car just based on my commute... unless that was the only reason I'm using it for.

But if that's the only criteria, and creature comforts are not a concern, then sure. ID prob get the cheapest decent EV you can find and coummute it until it dies.

[RAMd®d]

I don't know that no frunk is an indication of other 'gotchas', but that's a huge miss for me, maybe not a dealbreaker but a huge miss.

Combined with no CarPlay, I'd have to pass.

No CarPlay is a dealbreaker for me, unless I somehow stumbled upon an otherwise incredible deal.

As if.

[mattkime]

jdc wrote:
I dunno if i could ever buy a car just based on my commute... unless that was the only reason I'm using it for.

But if that's the only criteria, and creature comforts are not a concern, then sure. ID prob get the cheapest decent EV you can find and coummute it until it dies.

The commute is regular usage within a single charge, making an EV a financially wise choice. Sounds like they're a two car household so if an EV doesn't fit they can use their other car.

[jdc]

mattkime wrote:
[quote=jdc]
I dunno if i could ever buy a car just based on my commute... unless that was the only reason I'm using it for.

But if that's the only criteria, and creature comforts are not a concern, then sure. ID prob get the cheapest decent EV you can find and coummute it until it dies.

The commute is regular usage within a single charge, making an EV a financially wise choice. Sounds like they're a two car household so if an EV doesn't fit they can use their other car.
the only variable is gas vs electricity cost. Electricity isnt free.

google says @100 miles $5 (home charging) for EV and 7-10 for gas (depending on mpg). Using 3 days a week @100 miles and gas at 2X the cost = a $700 year difference. Its not nothing, but not bankrupt inducing either...

[Speedy]

jdc wrote:
[quote=mattkime]
[quote=jdc]
I dunno if i could ever buy a car just based on my commute... unless that was the only reason I'm using it for.

But if that's the only criteria, and creature comforts are not a concern, then sure. ID prob get the cheapest decent EV you can find and coummute it until it dies.

The commute is regular usage within a single charge, making an EV a financially wise choice. Sounds like they're a two car household so if an EV doesn't fit they can use their other car.
the only variable is gas vs electricity cost. Electricity isnt free.

google says @100 miles $5 (home charging) for EV and 7-10 for gas (depending on mpg). Using 3 days a week @100 miles and gas at 2X the cost = a $700 year difference. Its not nothing, but not bankrupt inducing either...
Let me tell you, driving past the gas stations is priceless.

[AllGold]

Regarding the lack of a frunk on the Chevy Equinox EV, here's why; this is what it looks like under the hood:

[jdc]

Speedy wrote:
Let me tell you, driving past the gas stations is priceless.

Let me tell you, driving past those supercharging stations seeing cars just sitting and sitting while a dozen others are just waiting is priceless.