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And you are so afraid of Obama
#11
Maybe there will be an up side to all this. Things like:

Learning to live within our means

Not trying to keep up with the Jones

Dinner around the kitchen table isn't so bad. (Mom really can cook when she has to)

Parents learn how to say no to their kids every desire.

Kids learn that money doesn't grow on trees.

There's nothing wrong with renting until you can afford to buy a house.

It's not necessary to have the latest and greatest.

There's no disgrace in getting a pair of shoes resoled.

..........

Feel free to add to the list.
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#12
careful swampy, that kind of talk is likely to spark riots!
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#13
swampy wrote:
Maybe there will be an up side to all this. Things like:

Learning to live within our means
Not trying to keep up with the Jones
Dinner around the kitchen table isn't so bad. (Mom really can cook when she has to)
Parents learn how to say no to their kids every desire.
Kids learn that money doesn't grow on trees.
There's nothing wrong with renting until you can afford to buy a house.
It's not necessary to have the latest and greatest.
There's no disgrace in getting a pair of shoes resoled.

I have to agree with all of that, with the possible exception of the last one. When I can get nice a brand new pair of shoes for $20 (on sale), it's not worth trying to retread them. No - I'm talking about sneakers. You just have to know where and when to shop. People who pay full price are suckers...
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#14
I don't think I've ever had a pair of shoes where the soles wearing was the fatal flaw . . .
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#15
swampy wrote:
Maybe there will be an up side to all this. Things like:

Learning to live within our means

Not trying to keep up with the Jones

Dinner around the kitchen table isn't so bad. (Mom really can cook when she has to)

Parents learn how to say no to their kids every desire.

Kids learn that money doesn't grow on trees.

There's nothing wrong with renting until you can afford to buy a house.

It's not necessary to have the latest and greatest.

There's no disgrace in getting a pair of shoes resoled.

..........

Feel free to add to the list.

Nice sentiment, but what about those who have been following these guidelines for years yet are still falling behind? People say the mess we're in is everyone's fault, but the truth is that many, many people never lived beyond their means in the first place.
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#16
and why is it that Mom is the one who has to cook...
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#17
Ammo wrote:
[quote=swampy]
Maybe there will be an up side to all this. Things like:

Learning to live within our means

Not trying to keep up with the Jones

Dinner around the kitchen table isn't so bad. (Mom really can cook when she has to)

Parents learn how to say no to their kids every desire.

Kids learn that money doesn't grow on trees.

There's nothing wrong with renting until you can afford to buy a house.

It's not necessary to have the latest and greatest.

There's no disgrace in getting a pair of shoes resoled.

..........

Feel free to add to the list.

Nice sentiment, but what about those who have been following these guidelines for years yet are still falling behind? People say the mess we're in is everyone's fault, but the truth is that many, many people never lived beyond their means in the first place.
And those are probably the folks that keep voting the "trickle down" party in, or don't make the effort to make it to the polls to vote against it.
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#18
mattkime wrote:
>>And yet, in my informal poll of patients who are old enough to remember the great depression and together enough to carry a conversation, 100% still answer "yes" to whether we're heading back into a similar time.

Thats just nostalgia.

Also, they want an excuse to show off their ninja level hoarding skillz.

I remember when I used to really be in to nostalgia.
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#19
SDGuy wrote:
[quote=swampy]
Maybe there will be an up side to all this. Things like:

Learning to live within our means
Not trying to keep up with the Jones
Dinner around the kitchen table isn't so bad. (Mom really can cook when she has to)
Parents learn how to say no to their kids every desire.
Kids learn that money doesn't grow on trees.
There's nothing wrong with renting until you can afford to buy a house.
It's not necessary to have the latest and greatest.
There's no disgrace in getting a pair of shoes resoled.

I have to agree with all of that, with the possible exception of the last one. When I can get nice a brand new pair of shoes for $20 (on sale), it's not worth trying to retread them. No - I'm talking about sneakers. You just have to know where and when to shop. People who pay full price are suckers...
I'm not aware of too many people who live a modest lifestyle, so I have to say Swampy's idea that we've all become a little too comfortable seems pretty valid to me. Plus, if you're following the first thing on the list, you can't be falling behind. And, if things really get depressiony, the cheap sneakers aren't going to be so cheap. Although, like BL, I've never worn a pair of soles out before the upper wore out. kj.
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#20
kj wrote:
[quote=SDGuy]
[quote=swampy]
Maybe there will be an up side to all this. Things like:

Learning to live within our means
Not trying to keep up with the Jones
Dinner around the kitchen table isn't so bad. (Mom really can cook when she has to)
Parents learn how to say no to their kids every desire.
Kids learn that money doesn't grow on trees.
There's nothing wrong with renting until you can afford to buy a house.
It's not necessary to have the latest and greatest.
There's no disgrace in getting a pair of shoes resoled.

What's funny is that all of the folks who are trying to save a dime on things like this consider their multi-line cell phone packages and their deluxe cable and broadband packages "must have" necessities.

I have to agree with all of that, with the possible exception of the last one. When I can get nice a brand new pair of shoes for $20 (on sale), it's not worth trying to retread them. No - I'm talking about sneakers. You just have to know where and when to shop. People who pay full price are suckers...
I'm not aware of too many people who live a modest lifestyle, so I have to say Swampy's idea that we've all become a little too comfortable seems pretty valid to me. Plus, if you're following the first thing on the list, you can't be falling behind. And, if things really get depressiony, the cheap sneakers aren't going to be so cheap. Although, like BL, I've never worn a pair of soles out before the upper wore out. kj.
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