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Amanda Knox verdict is in
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12-05-2009, 01:44 AM
All the hand wringing in the US doesn't point out the fact that if bad things happen in another country, you're subject to THEIR laws, not yours. One hopes the gal gets an appeal, if she is truly innocent. And I wonder who the 'real killer' is ? Or is OJ looking for them, too ?
12-05-2009, 03:45 AM
cbelt3 wrote: cbelt, the "real" killer has already been captured and convicted, Rudy, the guy who fled to Germany and was later arrested and tried for murdering Kercher. Many outside observers have concluded that he was the sole attacker. Abundant evidence links him directly to the crime. There's no mystery about any uncaptured killer. He's already in custody, and serving a sentence. The degree of involvement by Knox and Sollecito is murky, and hopelessly tainted by a sensationalized tabloid portrait of a wicked American vixen murderess. The prosecution insists Knox is the "mastermind" of the bad-girl, good-girl showdown that ended in a sexualized violent murder, led by Knox. Her defense maintains she was not involved at all. The real story? Who knows. It's a mess.
12-05-2009, 04:36 AM
guitarist wrote: Someone is sure to take offense at my comments, but I can't help but believe Amanda might have been one of those young women who felt simply being an American provided some sort of special privilege or protection. She was drinking, using drugs, and apparently didn't feel the need to know a guy too long or too well before becoming intimate with him. Some of her decisions put her at risk. Did she really "ask" for this? I certainly wouldn't say that, but perhaps being more cognizant of the potential risks of her choices might have kept this from happening. I also heard that what happened with Amanda resulted in some new restrictions and guidelines for American students who study abroad. (Don't ask what those are because I heard only that these programs have been re-evaluated.)
12-05-2009, 04:45 AM
>>but I can't help but believe Amanda might have been
she might have been a lot of things. your point?
12-05-2009, 05:34 AM
AlphaDog, I understand what you're saying. I wouldn't venture to speculate that her behavior "asked" for anything of this nature, it's honestly not a crime to be young and irresponsible. Millions of people do it every day, and tens of thousands do it abroad, without consequence. Not just American students. Any student from anywhere that kids like to drink, get stoned, party, and get laid.
My own thinking is that had she and her friends behaved this way in Rome, or Milan, it would have barely registered a blip on the radar. Large, populated, cosmopolitan European cities are a more favorable environment for mobs of sexually voracious, stoned young exchange students. But to behave like this, so disconnected and unaware, in a medieval little catholic village, well, students should take into account the customs and social climate (and legal system) of the region they're in. On that, I think, most of us agree.
12-05-2009, 06:13 AM
guitarist wrote: I should have included something along that line, because I agree with you. It was a serious clash of cultures, and her behavior suggests she didn't take that into consideration when making decisions. 
12-05-2009, 07:01 AM
I don't know where people get the idea that Perugia is some small backwards Catholic village. It's a city of 166,000.
Oh, that Church you see in the picture is not frequented by Italians since they're Catholic in name only. The church is actually a museum/tourist attraction. 
12-05-2009, 10:12 AM
freeradical wrote: I have been reading articles about this case for as long as it's been going on and have tried to find ones from various sources, not just the UK media. The murdered student was British so some of our tabloid press has been its usual idiotic self with stupid headlines but mostly there has been an unbiased reporting of the events of the case and how the trial has gone. I have seen accounts from other English speaking media who are not exactly favourable to the UK like that from Australia and they seem to say similar things to our less sensationalist papers. However, the few articles I have seen from the USA have had an obvious bias with sometimes ridiculous statements about Italy, Italians, this little backward village, Europe in general etc. It seemed as though the US media could not accept that any country outside its own shores could deal with a murder case, the attitude was quite xenophobic at times. i would appreciate someone pointing me towards other articles from the USA as I am sure there must be some who can report outside events with less bias. From what we have heard through the media I could not say whether Amanda Knox was guilty or not, I was not at the trial to hear everything that was said, but I do have faith in the justice system in Italy. They are not backward, they are not the Third World and their justice system has been around for a while. Mistakes can happen anywhere and new evidence can be brought to appeals. At least if new evidence comes to light after a few years she will still be alive unlike some innocent people in other countries. Paul
12-05-2009, 01:07 PM
voodoopenguin wrote: Exactly. Here in the US so many people have been put to death and later turned out they were innocents. At least this doesn't happen in the rest of the civilized world.
12-05-2009, 10:58 PM
I have no idea who this person is, and I fail to understand what it has to do with any of us. Unless we are all planning to go drink and do drugs in Italy, what is the point of getting worked up about this? There are undoubtedly plenty of miscarriages of justice in our very own country should we want to have a hobby of wringing our hands over them.
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