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vision63 wrote:
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[quote=vision63]The question is what methods would they have employed to pay "much" less taxes? The implication is that they would have employed nefarious methods. I see no evidence that would generate "no doubts." Warren Buffet and Michael Bloomberg offered to show off their taxes in a challenge to Trump too. If there were legal ways for the Clintons to reduce their taxes legally, then I'm sure they would have employed them. Why wouldn't they?
Because making $10M and paying 7% overall taxes would look horrible to the avg person. YES, I'm a cynic. I believe that the Clintons have done everything in their power in the last several years to make Hilary an electable person in 2016. There is nothing nefarious about NOT taking deductions that you are legally able to take.
Exactly. Nothing to be ashamed of by abiding by the law. Taking whatever deductions that you're due. Doing so shouldn't even be questioned.
True. But if Mr. Trump's returns showed he paid no taxes then this reflects on how the rich own the IRS code thanks to Congress and the Republican presidents.
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Speedy wrote:
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[quote=hal]
[quote=vision63]The question is what methods would they have employed to pay "much" less taxes? The implication is that they would have employed nefarious methods. I see no evidence that would generate "no doubts." Warren Buffet and Michael Bloomberg offered to show off their taxes in a challenge to Trump too. If there were legal ways for the Clintons to reduce their taxes legally, then I'm sure they would have employed them. Why wouldn't they?
Because making $10M and paying 7% overall taxes would look horrible to the avg person. YES, I'm a cynic. I believe that the Clintons have done everything in their power in the last several years to make Hilary an electable person in 2016. There is nothing nefarious about NOT taking deductions that you are legally able to take.
Exactly. Nothing to be ashamed of by abiding by the law. Taking whatever deductions that you're due. Doing so shouldn't even be questioned.
True. But if Mr. Trump's returns showed he paid no taxes then this reflects on how the rich own the IRS code thanks to Congress and the Republican presidents.
If that were the case, he would be fine with pivoting towards tax reform. He's hiding dirt.
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vision63 wrote:
I don't begrudge anybody "earning" their money because I don't anyone begrudging mine when I hit it big.
I won't do any begrudging, but I might stop by to visit! 
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Lux Interior wrote:
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I don't begrudge anybody "earning" their money because I don't anyone begrudging mine when I hit it big.
I won't do any begrudging, but I might stop by to visit!
As Biggie Smalls (Notorious BIG) once opined: "Giving ends to my friends and it feels stupendous!"
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gabester wrote:
How else do you declare bankruptcy so many times yet still claim to be a billionaire?
At least, that's what I'd bet.
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You will probably bet wrong, gabe.
Give us at least one example of Trump declaring a personal bankruptcy.....
bfd wrote:
What IS Dumbf hiding? This should be the broken record that Dems play until Dumbf's UNREDACTED returns are made public.
(Because you know if they ARE ever released, they'll have more holes than a slice of swiss cheese…)
gabester wrote:
I'm willing to bet that they never will be released because he doesn't actually pay any taxes or have any income.
vision has a more balanced take....
vision63 wrote:
Exactly. Nothing to be ashamed of by abiding by the law. Taking whatever deductions that you're due. Doing so shouldn't even be questioned.
Speedy wrote:
But if Mr. Trump's returns showed he paid no taxes then this reflects on how the rich own the IRS code thanks to Congress and the Republican presidents.
You really have to be a complete ostrich to believe that the Democrats had nothing to do with the way the tax code looks today.
Only an idiot would forget about the first two years of Obama administration when Democrats had a complete control of both Houses and the Executive, could have passed any piece of legislature they wished.
Instead the stooges you idolize, Speedy, have sold their souls and conscience to the highest bidder.
Yet you are ready to buy the same bag of bricks, again....
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It's too bad the "stooges" aren't running against someone qualified to hold office. So stooges it is, please, and do pass the gravy. With a smile. 
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vision63 wrote:
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[quote=vision63]
I don't begrudge anybody "earning" their money because I don't anyone begrudging mine when I hit it big.
I won't do any begrudging, but I might stop by to visit!
As Biggie Smalls (Notorious BIG) once opined: "Giving ends to my friends and it feels stupendous!"
The Black Mamba totally disagrees, his position is that once you hit it big you need to divorce yourself from family and friends.
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Speedy wrote:
You really have to be a complete ostrich to believe that the Democrats had nothing to do with the way the tax code looks today.
Only an idiot would forget about the first two years of Obama administration when Democrats had a complete control of both Houses and the Executive, could have passed any piece of legislature they wished.
Instead the stooges you idolize, Speedy, have sold their souls and conscience to the highest bidder.
Yet you are ready to buy the same bag of bricks, again....
All true!
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deckeda wrote:
It's too bad the "stooges" aren't running against someone qualified to hold office. So stooges it is, please, and do pass the gravy. With a smile.
You had a choice, between a principled and qualified Bernie Sanders and a corrupt, lying, warmongering neocon, the stooge of Wall Street, Hillary Clinton.
just a reminder how we got here,
YOU chose the stooge and a failed warmonger, deckeda, and you are proud of it.
Yep, she will be the next El Presidente, and as good political meathead goon you will defend and you will find excuses for every sellout she will inflict upon us....
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RgrF wrote:
[quote=vision63]
[quote=Lux Interior]
[quote=vision63]
I don't begrudge anybody "earning" their money because I don't anyone begrudging mine when I hit it big.
I won't do any begrudging, but I might stop by to visit!
As Biggie Smalls (Notorious BIG) once opined: "Giving ends to my friends and it feels stupendous!"
The Black Mamba totally disagrees, his position is that once you hit it big you need to divorce yourself from family and friends.
But see, that shows you don't know the Mamba (I actually know him personally). He's very generous. He's just not a braggart.
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