Slate: "The Ryan proposal compels Americans to buy insurance—just like Obamacare does."

[kj]

rgG wrote:
[quote=swampy]
It doesn't matter what i say here, I always seem to somehow get called out.

To say that because I may be comfortable in my current "Medicare" state and have no concern for the fate of the younger generations smacks of some preconceived judgmental opinion you have if me, rgG. I am not heartless. Geeez.

First, it is because of what you say, and have said over and over again, that I called you out on this one. That, and the fact that you have a very intimate knowledge the Medicare system, and should at least have an opinion on how the current system works, or doesn't work.

You usually support all the right wing agendas that come down the pike, now with this one, it is, "I don't know enough." It does matter what you say here, and any notion I have of you is only because of the bile I have seen you spew forth on this forum. As far as you being heartless, I will say that I have seen that tone in many of your previous posts, so that may be where I got that impression.

This issue us of particular interest to me and one that I would think you would have an opinion on, since you seemed to have had a lot of opinions on Obamacare when it was being debated. If you were so against a single payer system, like Obama wanted to have in the mix, I would assume that you would be all for Medicare going that way, especially since that is what the conservative Republicans seem to want so much. But, maybe you have seen how well the single payer system has worked, and now you might be a little reluctant to endorse this new plan, even though it comes from one of your right wing darlings.

I am an independent. I have no trouble disliking a lot of what both sides do, so don't assume I am a liberal at all costs. I just hate to see some ultra right wing, birth certificate demanding person like you, have no opinion on something this important. So yes, I am calling you out on this issue, and you did not answer the call.
I'm not sure it's really fair to ask someone to choose between something they've been using and are familiar with, and something that hasn't really been described in any depth. Fwiw, I also don't think it's fair to label her as heartless. I haven't had that impression.

At any rate, if Obamacare resembles something Ryan would do, I want no part of it. kj.

[kj]

Black wrote:
[quote=swampy]
It doesn't matter what i say here, I always seem to somehow get called out.

You only get called out when you post something grossly unfair to others.
Really? B.S. kj.

[Carnos Jax]

Put away the bottle kj.

[Black]

kj wrote:
[quote=Black]
[quote=swampy]
It doesn't matter what i say here, I always seem to somehow get called out.

You only get called out when you post something grossly unfair to others.
Really? B.S. kj. You don't follow this forum regularly enough to judge, sorry.

[Dennis S]

swampy wrote:
It doesn't matter what i say here, I always seem to somehow get called out.

To say that because I may be comfortable in my current "Medicare" state and have no concern for the fate of the younger generations smacks of some preconceived judgmental opinion you have if me, rgG. I am not heartless. Geeez.

Preconceived? Maybe she read this and it stuck with her:

http://forums.macresource.com/read.php?2...msg-768610

Dennis: It shouldn't really matter to you, since you already have guaranteed social health insurance for life.

swampy: Assumptions and presumptions, Dennis. You don't have a clue what I care about.

Dennis: I know you don't care about almost 50 million people and their families.

swampy: You're right, Dennis. I don't give a flying fark.

[Grace62]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/e...l_politics

Looks as though Republicans are letting the Ryan plan go.

[rgG]

Dakota wrote:
[quote=rgG]
To say, I don't know enough about it, seems like an easy way out, or maybe, since you already have the benefit of a good, relatively inexpensive, single payer system, you don't need to worry about those of us who will be subjected to it.

I don't know much about it either. What is your theory about me?
Well, since you asked, I think you just like to argue and incite people to attack you. I seriously doubt you believe half the stuff you spout off, but spout off you do. I find it tiresome in the extreme that you bait people like you do, but if they rise to the bait, then they are also partly to blame.

But perhaps you were talking about what I think about you and this particular issue. I think you, like everyone else, wants good, cheap health care, but we disagree about the best way to go about it. I think the democrats butchered their one attempt at true reform, and now this clown Ryan is trying to make an even bigger mistake with Medicare. I think so few politicians on either side have the guts to do what needs to be done, that nothing, or nothing good, gets done.

That's the short version.

[Mac1337]

When Aetna feels the need to go on TV as much as Progressive you know someone has fixed the health care system.

[kj]

Carnos Jax wrote:
Put away the bottle kj.

Screw you, brotha. kj.

[kj]

Dennis S wrote:
[quote=swampy]
It doesn't matter what i say here, I always seem to somehow get called out.

To say that because I may be comfortable in my current "Medicare" state and have no concern for the fate of the younger generations smacks of some preconceived judgmental opinion you have if me, rgG. I am not heartless. Geeez.

Preconceived? Maybe she read this and it stuck with her:

http://forums.macresource.com/read.php?2...msg-768610

Dennis: It shouldn't really matter to you, since you already have guaranteed social health insurance for life.

swampy: Assumptions and presumptions, Dennis. You don't have a clue what I care about.

Dennis: I know you don't care about almost 50 million people and their families.

swampy: You're right, Dennis. I don't give a flying fark.
You think you might be interpreting her answer just a little too literally there Dennis? kj.