What are your ideas on how to stimulate job growth?

[Grace62]

I know that's tongue in cheek, but....
American business pretty much does that now Acer, only we don't collect as much in taxes from undocumented workers are we could nor support their efforts with education and training as much as we could.
Getting really cynical here and with awareness of how exploitation hurts our economy and our workforce, there are not enough Latino workers to offset the Chinese and Indian numbers. The race to the bottom is not the way to go.

[Acer]

I'm not tongue in cheek at all. Are you saying we just let Asia have all the cheap "dirty" jobs so we can keep the ones that pay well for ourselves? That strategy is failing all around us. We need the unskilled level of the job market as much as we need the top.

I'm not calling for sweat shops. I didn't mention a wage level. It may be less than the current minimum, but it can still be more than Asian wages if you factor in savings from overhead and quality control issues of offshoring.

If there's not enough latinos for them all, then pick a few markets where the break-even is easier to reach as a start. Any job gained is a job gained.

As for undocumented workers, that's the proof that there IS a market for such labor. Document them, get their wages above the table.

[Grace62]

Acer wrote:
I'm not tongue in cheek at all. Are you saying we just let Asia have all the cheap "dirty" jobs so we can keep the ones that pay well for ourselves? That strategy is failing all around us. We need the unskilled level of the job market as much as we need the top.

No, I'm saying that we don't have the numbers to compete at their level, even if we bring in everyone from Mexico and Central America who wants to come here to pluck chickens or change oil. Keep in mind that we have to have jobs for those people to start with, absence of jobs is the main reason non-native workers have left over the past few years, not immigration enforcement.
And that there's a downside to that which must be factored in.

[Grace62]

Grace62 wrote:
[quote=billb]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson-St...gement_Act

One caution, that article is rife with NMFS slant and interpretations.
The critiques section is horribly misleading and frought with outright lies and single-vision distortions.
Also keep in mind NMFS has been challenged in courts with misconduct and blantant theft and repeated abuses of power.

Why are you sharing this with us?
**********crickets**************

[Acer]

They spend as well as earn, creating their own jobs. We need spenders as much as we need earners in order to have an economy. Where it won't work is if they earn it and send it back home (out of country.)

[Grace62]

I'm all for immigration reform that helps workers stay here, get educated, and pay taxes. Yes we face a worker shortage in the next decade or so. That's not in honesty what business wants though. They like it as is. Bring in the workers, exempt from regs and wage laws as they are not legal anyway, and if they get raided its the workers who get carted off, no skin off employers' back, just bring in the next crew.

[Mac1337]

If you are worried about poor brown people overrunning your neighborhood, there is another solution. Sell US citizenship for a million dollars. Of course, you don't have to frame it that way. What they have to do is to buy property worth at least $500,000 and put the rest in an investment bank. There will be a backlog worth several years.

[OWC Jamie]

Grace62 wrote:
[quote=Grace62]
[quote=billb]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson-St...gement_Act

One caution, that article is rife with NMFS slant and interpretations.
The critiques section is horribly misleading and frought with outright lies and single-vision distortions.
Also keep in mind NMFS has been challenged in courts with misconduct and blantant theft and repeated abuses of power.

Why are you sharing this with us?
**********customers**************

Sorry, but they come first.


Try reading some of the regulations for the last decade.


Not the synopsis, not the interpretations.
The Regs themselves.
Barney Frank couldn't.

[Grace62]

Grace62 wrote:
[quote=billb]
[quote=Grace62]
[quote=billb]
We've had to hire lawyers just to read and interpret the regulations the Fed lawyers scheme up. Heck some of their own lawyers have a hard time with them.
Barney Frank has had to do the same.

More twisted hooey.

Herman Cain would be a great candidate for you. He wants all bills 3 pages or less.
The bills can be cartoons for what that's worth, It's the regulatory commissions the bills set up where the scheming lawyers and administrators end up complicating and destroying what the bills set out to do.
Which is why I specifically mentioned regulations not congressional bills and Acts.

Keep focusing on just the front end of the problem and ignore the meat. It's easier.
Can you provide a specific regulation of your industry, and the specific rules, where this is the case? I'm curious to see what you're referring to and hear how you think that reg could be simplified.
I used to work in banking, I'm no stranger to regulation.

OK I see. You can't or won't answer the above, but you love to spout off that regulation is hurting your industry (whatever that may be) and that simplification would serve the public interest and help your business, you just won't say why, or how.

[haikuman]

It is amazing to watch a verbal bully in action asking questions, demanding answers and telling how to answer :cartman: