iFixit confirms soldered RAM in Retina Macbook Pro

[sekker]

I'm using a 5-year old laptop that's been upgraded RAM, hard drive (to SSD), and optical drive (to hard drive).

If there had been a CPU upgrade option, I'm sure I would have done so.

I am potentially excited by the MBPR, but there are notable negatives:

1) Essentially no upgrade paths except maybe the SSD.

2) The magsafe 2 change is annoying. I have a ton of standard chargers, having to carry around the $10 adapters likely means one would have to go into my wallet for emergencies.

3) The change in all the other ports (ethernet, firewire) at the least adds expense via dongles or hubs. And I'd likely have to carry at least an ethernet dongle for travel.

Apple really is pushing the iPhone product sales approach (they started along these lines when they made the iMac's hard drive non-standard). Basically, plan to replace with a new model in a couple years if you want the latest. I'm a conservative technology consumer - I find this financial model less appealing.

[Monster]

Fuck Apple.

[Lux Interior]

chopper wrote:
In the last 36 hours I have decided, based on OSX 10.7 and etc, that I am done buying Apple. I have an offer for a $99 iPhone from Verizon (10 year customer) and I think I'll see what else they have for the same deal.


There's something very sinister in all of this.

You might want to save that $99 for tinfoil.

[M A V I C]

RAMd®d wrote:
Apple is making their niche smaller and smaller.

And that's got to be the dumbest of the dumb statements in this thread, worthy of the AppleInsider forums. Seriously.

It's completely true. Sad that you're calling the comment dumb when you weren't even able to come up with an intelligent reply. As is evident by the number of people here who buy Macs, want a new MBP, but wont buy this one, with these machines Apple is most certainly targeting a much smaller niche than they have in the past.

[hal]

There is no reason on earth why that awesome display can't be put on a laptop with user upgradable parts - none! That's the real complaint.

[silvarios]

M A V I C wrote:
[quote=RAMd®d]
Apple is making their niche smaller and smaller.

And that's got to be the dumbest of the dumb statements in this thread, worthy of the AppleInsider forums. Seriously.

It's completely true. Sad that you're calling the comment dumb when you weren't even able to come up with an intelligent reply. As is evident by the number of people here who buy Macs, want a new MBP, but wont buy this one, with these machines Apple is most certainly targeting a much smaller niche than they have in the past.
In the old days being dissatisfied with anything Apple related meant you simply weren't smart or cool enough to understand the superior platform. Now Apple is more successful than ever, so if you find yourself dissatisfied with anything Apple related you must be an idiot. Either way, Apple can do nothing wrong.

There's no winning. Some people are brand loyalist instead of tech enthusiast.

[silvarios]

davester wrote:
Obviously you're right and the folks at Apple who have spent years creating an incredibly successful company based on their ability to design and market electronic devices have no idea what they're doing.

I would argue marketing largely explains their recent success in the mass market. Apple got much better at targeting regular people. Not sure that means their products are always necessarily better than their competitor's offerings. Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't, but too often image plays a more important role in purchasing decisions.

[M A V I C]

silvarios wrote:
[quote=M A V I C]
[quote=RAMd®d]
Apple is making their niche smaller and smaller.

And that's got to be the dumbest of the dumb statements in this thread, worthy of the AppleInsider forums. Seriously.

It's completely true. Sad that you're calling the comment dumb when you weren't even able to come up with an intelligent reply. As is evident by the number of people here who buy Macs, want a new MBP, but wont buy this one, with these machines Apple is most certainly targeting a much smaller niche than they have in the past.
In the old days being dissatisfied with anything Apple related meant you simply weren't smart or cool enough to understand the superior platform. Now Apple is more successful than ever, so if you find yourself dissatisfied with anything Apple related you must be an idiot. Either way, Apple can do nothing wrong.

There's no winning. Some people are brand loyalist instead of tech enthusiast.
Yep. And the fact that Apple is keeping the previous MBP design and upgradability is just proof positive that they understand the MBPRD's lack of upgradability is going to be a deal breaker for many. I think they're only using the RDs in the new ones to try and give more reason to buy the non-upgradable, non-repairable MBPs. Down the road I think we will see upgradable/repairable MBP's with the RD.

[M A V I C]

silvarios wrote:
[quote=davester]
Obviously you're right and the folks at Apple who have spent years creating an incredibly successful company based on their ability to design and market electronic devices have no idea what they're doing.

I would argue marketing largely explains their recent success in the mass market. Apple got much better at targeting regular people. Not sure that means their products are always necessarily better than their competitor's offerings. Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't, but too often image plays a more important role in purchasing decisions.
Actually, the vast majority of decisions - even technical - are based on perception rather than reality. This test is a great example of that: http://www.geekwire.com/2012/microsoft-e...gle-users/

[Ombligo]

M A V I C wrote:
Down the road I think we will see upgradable/repairable MBP's with the RD.

I'd bet just the opposite. Apple never did like people fooling around inside their Mac's and now they have effectively stopped them. If anything I expect the future MBP will be less upgradeable. I'll go so far as to say you'll see that in the next iMac design too.

Why let people upgrade when you can just sell them a whole new unit. It is the washing machine model - replace rather than repair.