Thank you, Mr. President

[john dough]

Boo hoo, they are picking on me again! It is not like these retorts came out of thin air: you invite derision and complain when it happens.

Maybe if backed up your posts with facts instead of opinion and/or smears, people would not throw it back in your face.

[Black]

john dough wrote:
Boo hoo, they are picking on me again! It is not like these retorts came out of thin air: you invite derision and complain when it happens.

Maybe if backed up your posts with facts instead of opinion and/or smears, people would not throw it back in your face.

This stuff is getting really hard to read, and clearly it's accomplishing nothing.

[Black]

Anyone else hear Marilyn Monroe every time they see this thread title?

[Mac1337]

Here is someone saying the same thing but a little more articulate,

"I ... completely underestimated the capacity of America's erstwhile "peace community" for turning on a dime and embracing the kind of all-American xenophobic flag-waving bloodlust they only recently decried. So today I stand proudly with my new friends of the formerly antiwar left in a mindlessly jingoistic salute to President Obama for an extralegal military assassination well done."

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/201...-back.html

[$tevie]

Black wrote:
Anyone else hear Marilyn Monroe every time they see this thread title?

No, but now I will. :-)

[Grace62]

The reaction of pro-Iraq, pro-Bush policy hawks to this successful mission led by Pres. Obama is one of the more interesting cases of cognitive dissonance that I've seen in quite a while. Fascinating.

[Black]

Dakota wrote:
Here is someone saying the same thing but a little more articulate,

"I ... completely underestimated the capacity of America's erstwhile "peace community" for turning on a dime and embracing the kind of all-American xenophobic flag-waving bloodlust they only recently decried. So today I stand proudly with my new friends of the formerly antiwar left in a mindlessly jingoistic salute to President Obama for an extralegal military assassination well done."

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/201...-back.html

Summary: We interrupt this week's regularly scheduled Big Lies for this breaking Medium-Sized Lie. We will return to our regularly scheduled lies as soon as possible.

[Black]

Grace62 wrote:
The reaction of pro-Iraq, pro-Bush policy hawks to this successful mission led by Pres. Obama is one of the more interesting cases of cognitive dissonance that I've seen in quite a while. Fascinating.

Cognitive dissonance? Nah, I think they know they're spouting a bunch of false crap.

[rjmacs]

Dakota wrote:
Here is someone saying the same thing but a little more articulate,

"I ... completely underestimated the capacity of America's erstwhile "peace community" for turning on a dime and embracing the kind of all-American xenophobic flag-waving bloodlust they only recently decried. So today I stand proudly with my new friends of the formerly antiwar left in a mindlessly jingoistic salute to President Obama for an extralegal military assassination well done."

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/201...-back.html

Dakota, i'm okay with highlighting individuals who exhibit inconsistent behavior, but painting with as broad a brush as this stings. There are lots of members of the "peace community" - the real peace community, who oppose war in all its forms - who are not cheering or saluting President Obama for assassinating Osama bin Laden. I appreciate that you have found some hypocrisy among liberals since OBL was killed, but i'm going to push back a little here, respectfully. There are many people committed to peace who are not hypocrites, and there are many liberals who are not now jingoistic or xenophobic. I count myself among that group, and i've made real efforts here to talk about it. When you post something as harsh as this, it seems like i've suddenly become invisible, or possibly insulted.

Sorry if i'm taking this the wrong way - participating in these threads has been important to me, and until now i haven't felt disrespected by you. Perhaps i've got it wrong.

[Grace62]

Black wrote:
[quote=Grace62]
The reaction of pro-Iraq, pro-Bush policy hawks to this successful mission led by Pres. Obama is one of the more interesting cases of cognitive dissonance that I've seen in quite a while. Fascinating.

Cognitive dissonance? Nah, I think they know they're spouting a bunch of false crap.
I'm looking at that quote Dakota posted. That guy is flummoxed by having to face the fact that Pres. Obama successfully led a game-changing military mission that his hero, Pres. Bush, was unable to complete. So instead of admitting that their pre-conceived notions about Pres. Obama were wrong, the reaction is "told you so" claiming that this is a victory for the Bush approach, evidence to the contrary.
To me that looks like classic cognitive dissonance.
I think that's classic cognitive dissonance.