15 million unemployed; still refuse jobs

[$tevie]

Dakota, they are NOT collecting $40,000 a year. Get mommy to help you with your math.

[Mac1337]

$tevie wrote:
Dakota, they are NOT collecting $40,000 a year. Get mommy to help you with your math.

My bad, it is $39,456. Your turn.

[Mac1337]

Doc wrote:

If you're an entry-level workers then there's no "competition" at all from unemployment benefits because there are no such benefits for that class of people.

People can easily be working for three years at the local 7-11 for roughly the minimum wage. They get laid off. You are saying they can't collect unemployment? They are still in the entry level job market so their next employer is competing with unemployment+healthcare benefits.

[$tevie]

Dakota wrote:
[quote=$tevie]
Dakota, they are NOT collecting $40,000 a year. Get mommy to help you with your math.

My bad, it is $39,456. Your turn.
You are still including the health subsidies. Duh.

[$tevie]

Dakota wrote:
[quote=Doc]

If you're an entry-level workers then there's no "competition" at all from unemployment benefits because there are no such benefits for that class of people.

People can easily be working for three years at the local 7-11 for roughly the minimum wage. They get laid off. You are saying they can't collect unemployment? They are still in the entry level job market so their next employer is competing with unemployment+healthcare benefits.
Unemployment is based on what you were earning. The figure of $528 is the MAXIMUM one could receive in PA.. Plenty of folks aren't getting that amount, and certainly nobody who was earning minimum wage is.

[Mac1337]

$tevie wrote:
[quote=Dakota]
[quote=$tevie]
Dakota, they are NOT collecting $40,000 a year. Get mommy to help you with your math.

My bad, it is $39,456. Your turn.
You are still including the health subsidies. Duh.
Why not? They don't need healthcare? Don't you know people take jobs solely based on what kind of medical coverage they get? Anything beats zero.

[$tevie]

Well, you just shot your entire argument in the foot.

OBVIOUSLY if you were to get health care coverage on unemployment (and in the state of MD you do NOT, in fact I've never heard of it before) you would be INSANE to take a job picking fruit and lose your health coverage.

Besides, the sort of folks who qualify for the maximum coverage -- people who were making incomes in six figures -- aren't going to be able to pull up stakes and move someplace to pick fruit for four months. You are just being stupid again.

When you talk about your salary do you include what your benefits are worth? I bet you do not. Well, let's put it this way, normal people do not. If in fact you can go to the hospital while collecting unemployment in PA and have it covered, that's not the same as income. Double Duh.

[$tevie]

Ah, here it is:

That law also reimburses 65% of the cost of COBRA health insurance payments for the first nine months of unemployment. That's a huge benefit for those with children because the full cost of a family-of-four policy can be more than $12,000 a year.

They don't get $12,000 a year. They are saying that the full cost of COBRA payments could be more than $12,000 a year.

What they get is a reimbursement of 65% of their COBRA payments (which they have already made).

Jeebus, I should have known better than to think you read/quoted anything correctly.

[OWC Jamie]

Normal people most certainly do put a street price value on their employer paid health insurance and any other perks.
It's called value added for a reason.

You two love to argue so much for no other purpose than arguing that some are starting to wonder if you two are one and the same person.

[Mac1337]

Bill, I couldn't have said it better. If your next job doesn't have health coverage then you need to get paid that much more. On your second point, she could have stayed out of this thread. In fact, she claims she is "ignoring" me. I don't know what she would be doing if she was not.