Government Agents Seize Oath Keeper’s New Born From Hospital

[Carnos Jax]

Well, I guess that just about covers the fly bys...

[Bernie]

Guilt by association to a organization whose only threat is to do nothing when asked to do something unlawful. I do not have an unbiased take on this.

1) If they have so much dirt on these people why list Oath Keepers as the reason?
2) There is no reason to remove a child from it's mother when both are still under hospital care.
3) This is a test to see just how numb the Sheeple of this country really are.

[davester]

Hey Bernie, did you miss the posts above that stated that the legal document you posted appears to have been faked by pasting in the oath keepers part? Your "take" appears to be based on false information.

[Lux Interior]

Bernie wrote:
This is a test to see just how numb the Sheeple of this country really are.

Just as easily a test to see how easily people can be manipulated.

You haven't addressed any of the questions. You expect us to take a one-sided story at face value.

[Bernie]

I am asking people to stay tuned.

Stewart Rhodes wrote:

We are doing all we can to confirm and document this. But if is IS accurate, and a newborn child was ripped from her mother’s arms because the parents were “associated” with Oath Keepers by simply being members of our online Ning discussion forum, then this is a grave crossing of a very serious line, and is utterly intolerable. It cannot be done. It cannot be allowed to stand.

[davester]

Bernie wrote:
I am asking people to stay tuned.

In other words "I got nuthin'."

You cannot expect people to pay any attention to outlandish claims (and this is definitely one) when you present zero hard evidence and the one item that is the basis for your claim appears on the face of it to be fake. You appear to be located at conspiracy theorist central. Get help.

[Grace62]

If anyone is interested in who these "Oath Keepers" are, here is the latest report on them from the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Again, my hope for the family in NH is for safety and well-being for the children and enough support for the mom so that she gets away from this loser wanna be army man. He can go hang out with his buddies in the woods and fire grenades. Seems like the best thing for his family at this point. By the time the state is considering termination of parental rights they have given up hope that the parents can get it together. That is a very long process with many, many second chances for the parents. It's like the "civil death penalty," very rare, very serious, and never taken lightly.

Intelligence Report, Fall 2010, Issue Number: 139
Oath Keepers Group Battered by Members' Arrests

Oath Keepers, a two-year-old organization that encourages police officers and soldiers to disobey orders that may be unconstitutional, has long contended that it is about nothing more than protecting Americans' freedoms. Its leader has angrily denounced suggestions that the group is animated by radical beliefs, and accused critics of working to smear an upstanding, patriotic group.

But several recent developments have created problems for Stewart Rhodes, the Oath Keepers leader who says he merely wants to defend the Constitution.

This April, a suburban Cleveland, Ohio, man described by a prosecutor as the president of a local Oath Keepers chapter was jailed on 54 criminal counts related to his alleged storing of a live napalm bomb at his home, along with other explosives kept at a friend's home. The man, Matthew Fairfield, already had been sentenced in February to two years' probation for carrying concealed weapons.

During the same month in Tennessee, an armed man driving a pickup truck emblazoned with an Oath Keepers logo was arrested in a bizarre scheme to place two dozen officials in a town under arrest.

And in January, another self-described Oath Keeper, Charles Dyer, was arrested in Oklahoma for the alleged rape and forcible sodomy of a 7-year-old child; he was also charged with possessing a grenade launcher that had been stolen from a California military base in 2006.

A jury acquitted Dyer of the federal weapons charge but the sexual abuse charges are still pending. Dyer — who popped up often in YouTube videos to complain about the "New World Order" and other apparently looming dangers — had spoken on behalf of Oath Keepers at a 2009 Tea Party event in Oklahoma. Just days before the appearance, Rhodes, who later sought to distance his group from Dyer, promised that Dyer would "deliver one heck of a fiery speech."

http://www.splcenter.org/who-we-are

[michaelb]

Here is the story in the NH newspaper.

http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?...rs+protest&articleId=3cd6180a-5ce6-4f58-9483-ef5ae2329cbc

Obviously the key background is the issues were bad enough already that her two previous children are in state's custody since last year.

[Bernie]

Stewart Rhodes writes today on the Oath Keepers website that the Southern Poverty Law Center is now officially part of the Department of Homeland Security. Rhodes sources a DHS document, entitled “Countering Violent Extremism Working Group,” that lists Richard Cohen as a member of the DHS created group. Cohen is president and CEO of the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Does this Document look Legit?

[Don Kiyoti]

Bernie you seem to be an extremely gullible person.