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BCam wrote: Worst gaff of the night - Ryan bringing up the family in Mass. with two badly injured children in a car accident. He didn't know that Biden lost his wife and baby daughter in a car crash? Either really stupid, or really callous.
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$tevie wrote:
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Mine was the line that went unsaid:
"So your budget plan goes like this: Romney gives $5 trillion taxpayer dollars to his banker friends and cuts 20% off of the budget at the same time and it doesn't hurt anyone because his fairy godmother waved her magic wand to make the middle class richer and provide every American with a cushy job, health care and a college education. Gotcha."
bingo! I thought there were a lot of missed opportunities for the VP tonight to really lay it out in stark terms and he did not do that. His style is too staccato and he interrupts his own thought process.
The lies were flying so thick and fast that I think Biden had a lot to do to keep up with them all. He got Ryan pretty good on a number of them and really made it plain that when you scratch the facade of Ryan's platitudes, he's got nothin'. I think Biden did very well to not devolve his points into an attack on Ryan and/or Romney's personal finances.
it should have been one of his prepared statements. I don't know how much of a memory he has, but there really should have been a better prepared line of the sort quoted above.
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BIDEN: Now, there’s not enough — the reason why the AEI study, the American Enterprise Institute study, the Tax Policy Center study, the reason they all say it’s going — taxes go up on the middle class, the only way you can find $5 trillion in loopholes is cut the mortgage deduction for middle-class people, cut the health care deduction, middle-class people, take away their ability to get a tax break to send their kids to college. That’s why they arrive at it.
RADDATZ: Is he wrong about that?
RYAN: He is wrong about that. They’re…
BIDEN: How’s that?
RYAN: You can — you can cut tax rates by 20 percent and still preserve these important preferences for middle-class taxpayers…
BIDEN: Not mathematically possible.
RYAN: It is mathematically possible. It’s been done before. It’s precisely what we’re proposing.
BIDEN: It has never been done before.
RYAN: It’s been done a couple of times, actually.
BIDEN: It has never been done before.
RYAN: Jack Kennedy lowered tax rates, increased growth. Ronald Reagan…
BIDEN: Oh, now you’re Jack Kennedy?
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my favorite Biden line was the one he didn't finish. after trying to clear up to another bit of malarky he said "I wish they wouldn't li-um...I wish they would be more candid."
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