Are Hospitals Too Fancy?

[N-OS X-tasy!]

cbelt3 wrote:
Suburban / Corporate hospitals ? Valet parking ! 5 star treatment. Shmancy rooms set up like hotel rooms. The 'cafeteria' is a gourmet focused food court. But... so what ? You're sick as heck !

Obviously such amenities are intended for visitors, not patients. I believe the thought process behind providing them is to reduce as much as possible the level of stress that naturally accompanies visiting a loved one who is in the hospital.

[3d]

Kraniac wrote:
I also feel that a building like the one I pictured up there is complete waste of air space above the rectangular part of the building..that's a designers whim and all of the air around those curves and angles is a waste.

Those curves and angles add more rooms with windows, so no, it's not merely a whim. You're getting all bent out of shape over this.

[Bill in NC]

my favorite were the fancy labor/delivery rooms - where we spent all of an hour or so.

then off to the regular room that looked like it was last updated during Nixon's administration.

[cbelt3]

Bill in NC wrote:
my favorite were the fancy labor/delivery rooms - where we spent all of an hour or so.

then off to the regular room that looked like it was last updated during Nixon's administration.

Well then Mrs. Bill in NC was lucky, lucky, lucky. Mrs. cbelt3 spend 24 (!) hours in the first labor/delivery room. With nothing for pain whatsoever. And she will happily remind our eldest of that whenever she is being annoying.

[davester]

Kraniac wrote:
There are studies out there that say patients don't give a dang.

I don't buy the notion that building a fancy building vs building a non-fancy building is not that much more expensive.

I know it's more expensive and not just a little..labor is higher because you have to use folks that are experienced with the materials they're installing..the materials can be significantly more expensive, engineering creeps in and so does design, custom made materials everywhere in this building up there..that's pricey...This building's price tag was 887 million..that's getting close to a billion. That's the public number..Im quite sure they PR'd on the release of that figure.

I also feel that a building like the one I pictured up there is complete waste of air space above the rectangular part of the building..that's a designers whim and all of the air around those curves and angles is a waste.

and ongoing maintenance is a significant issue..though, it's questionable in some cases as to whether maintenance costs are higher..fancy and non fancy can designed to be easily maintainable.

Stating opinions as though they are fact does nothing (at best) for your arguments. If there are studies, then cite them. If you've got nothing, then please start out all of your sentences with "My wildass guess is..."

[Kraniac]

Thanks Davester..It wasn't stated as an opinion. Do you see an opinion there??

"There are studies out there that say patients don't give a dang."

here you go..one of several..if you really give a shit, which i doubt you do, you can easily google a few more.

One "Study" that might support my wildass guess"

Sorry that I didn't offer a link, it was an oversight on my part.

Do me a favor..don't automatically make a wildass assumption that it's an opinion and then offer up a response like your some sort of ball sack, cause I know you're not.

[N-OS X-tasy!]

Kraniac wrote:
Thanks Davester..It wasn't stated as an opinion. Do you see an opinion there??

"There are studies out there that say patients don't give a dang."

here you go..one of several..if you really give a shit, which i doubt you do, you can easily google a few more.

One "Study" that might support my wildass guess".

Plot twist: All the patients at that hospital are blind. miley-laughing001:

[GuyGene]

OP, :agree: too danged fancy.

[davester]

Kraniac wrote:
Thanks Davester..It wasn't stated as an opinion. Do you see an opinion there??

"There are studies out there that say patients don't give a dang."

here you go..one of several..if you really give a shit, which i doubt you do, you can easily google a few more.

One "Study" that might support my wildass guess"

Sorry that I didn't offer a link, it was an oversight on my part.

Do me a favor..don't automatically make a wildass assumption that it's an opinion and then offer up a response like your some sort of ball sack, cause I know you're not.

It's always possible to find one study to suit your view. Here's a more comprehensive summary of a number of studies that find the opposite:

There have been five other significant reviews of the literature relating to the physical environment and patient outcomes. Nelson and colleagues10 identified the need to reduce noise pollution and enhance factors that can shorten a patient’s length of stay (e.g., natural lighting, care in new/remodeled units, and access to music and views of nature); according to their study, patients can benefit from the skillful utilization of music and artwork. Ulrich and colleagues7 found research that demonstrated that the design of a hospital can significantly improve patient safety by decreasing health care associated infections and medical errors. They also found that facility design can have a direct impact on patient and staff satisfaction, a patient’s stress experience, and organization performance metrics. Three other reviews found that hospital design, particularly when single-bed rooms are employed, can enhance patient safety and create environments that are healthier for patients, families, and staff by preventing injury from falls, infections, and medical errors; minimizing environmental stressors associated with noise and inefficient room and unit layout; and using nature, color, light, and sound to control potential stressors.11–13 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK2633/

You also stated opinions about rectangular vs non-rectangular buildings, excessive maintenance, increased labor costs due to different construction materials, etc that I am skeptical are based on reality.

[RAMd®d]

Stating opinions as though they are fact does nothing (at best) for your arguments. If there are studies, then cite them. If you've got nothing, then please start out all of your sentences with "My wildass guess is..."

This should be a Sticky, whether or not it applies to K's post.

At least, that's my personal opinion.