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Instacart Update: Some users entice with large tip then change to $0 after delivery
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https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/5/212819...n-covid-19

Instacart is adjusting how it handles customer tips following the announcement last week of a congressional inquiry into the practice of tip-baiting, in which Instacart allows customers to promise big tips for shoppers only for those customers to later rescind the tip after the order is dropped off.

Instacart now says it will shorten the window a customer can alter their tip from three days down to 24 hours. It’s also now requiring customers leave feedback for removing tips and pledging to deactivate any customer who “consistently and egregiously engages in this type of behavior.” The company claims “only 0.25 percent of orders had a tip adjusted after 24 hours,” and that, “less than 0.5 percent of orders have tips removed after delivery.” Instacart is also expanding its in-app cash-out feature to include tips, so shoppers can now receive the extra earned money from an order 24 hours after a completed order.

But amid the pandemic, a new customer-side behavior on the Insatacart platform, tip-baiting, began posing serious risks to Instacart shoppers. Many Instacart shoppers began relying on the company as their only source of income during COVID-19-induced lockdowns and putting their health at risk to venture into grocery stores and delivery food to customers. Some Instacart users discovered they could promise large tips to ensure efficient service, only to reduce the tip amount to zero after receiving the order.
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Shortening the window isn’t going to do anything to stop it. Good ideas might include not allowing tip changes or limiting them to a percentage decrease. Or not allowing pre-tipping. Or removing the tips completely and charging more so that the people don’t have to rely on tips. Then give them bonus based or ratings.
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I like the idea of no pre-tipping.
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#4
I like the idea of tight regulations on Instacart
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#5
I don't like tipping on an account; to the extent that when we previously dined out we'd leave a cash tip - thus avoiding the house taking a portion.

If We'd simply pay wait people a livable wage, they'd not have to depend on tips to pay the rent.
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RgrF wrote:
I don't like tipping on an account; to the extent that when we previously dined out we'd leave a cash tip - thus avoiding the house taking a portion.

If We'd simply pay wait people a livable wage, they'd not have to depend on tips to pay the rent.

Don't hold your breath. I'll never not tip. Even the restaurants in the Bay area that pays more and try to discourage you from paying one. Some people work harder than other people. You gotta tip that. I tipped the Baskin Robbins scooper today.
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I'm pretty sure Baskin Robbins isn't part of shelter/isolation at home. Just saying.
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#8
Shortening the window isn’t going to do anything to stop it.


Exactly.

Tipperbaters will adapt instantly.

I think no pre-tipping is a good idea and see no reason to allow it.

If it is allowed, there should be no window to withdraw it.

Unfortunately, then if one gets lousy service, they've tipped big for nothing.

But there's a sort of karma in that.



I'll never not tip.


Hm. I don't tip for over the counter service such as Subway, Togos, etc.

I may give that a rethink.

Otherwise if the service was horrific, maybe, so I maybe shouldn't say never there as well.

But so far, I've never not tipped since I started paying the tab, and even when I don't.

I can't remember a time when I got service that didn't at least rate, by me, the 10-15-20% considered minimum at the time.



I'm pretty sure Baskin Robbins isn't part of shelter/isolation at home. Just saying.


Well, that's relative.

Feeding one's scoop jonesin' can also put a crush on cabin fever for a moment, especially if you only have five or six of the 31 flavors in the ice box.
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#9
Simple fix. Users who frequently change the pre tip amount get locked out of the service.

Lyft and Uber will deactivate a passenger's account if they consistantly get bad ratings from the drivers. No reason InstaCart can't lock out a customer. Make it part of the Terms of Service, and repeated violations warrant termination of the account.
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#10
Instacart has other issues, at least where I'm at. There has been a great deal of complaining about its pricing. People will specify an item that is on sale but then get charged retail, even a BOGO item will be charged at retail for both. This is pure profit for Instacart and can add substantially to a customer bill in addition to the Instacart fee.
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