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This one is outrageous.
My daughter parked her car on the street on MONDAY, within 15 feet of a "No Parking TUESDAYS/Street Sweeping" sign. She was given a ticket. After chasing down the meter maid, it was explained to her that the city border (completely unmarked) came between her car and the sign, and that the streetsweeping sign that applied to her ("No Parking MONDAYS/Street Sweeping") was the one almost 200 feet down the street (almost invisible from the car's location). She had her camera so took a bunch of pictures which we're going to mark up and submit with a protest. I'm not hopeful though. Grrr!
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Wow, that's pretty lame. Was there no "East of here" type sign?
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Ignorance of the ignorant laws is never an excuse. I so love these 'double secret probation' class rules. Good luck with your challenge.
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Don't be pessimistic...
Friends of mine got a very simillar ticket for riding their 4-wheelers on an area of beach where it was restricted...
The signage was placed so that a reasonable person, taking a reasonable course, could NOT see them. Not "might miss them", but couldn't see them.
The judge agreed that the even though "ignorance of the law is no excuse", signage placed to alert the public has to be visible and the test of a "reasonable person" being able to interpret the signage has to be applied.
They got the fine reversed.
In my opinion, a sign placed 15 feet away, with no other indication that it does NOT apply, based on the "reasonable person" approach, has to assume that that's the sign to comply with.. not the sign 200 feet away with it's back to you.
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Reminds me of the time when I parked outside of a post office. I parked just behind a sign that said "No Parking Here to Corner". A cop who saw me park told me I was parked illegally. I said, "No, I'm not". He pointed to the sign. I went over to the sign and said "It says 'No Parking HERE to corner'. I am not parked between HERE and the corner." He said that it "meant" no parking on that side of the street. I said, "No, the sign says 'No Parking HERE to corner.' I am not parked between here and the corner. You can give me a ticket, but any judge will throw it out." Then I walked away. When I came out, he was gone and I didn't get a ticket.
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doesn't appear that we have a lot of choice other than yes or don't click on this thread.
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At least davester's thread topic was descriptive.
I never click on threads with titles like "you've gotta see this!" or "why do people...?"
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Talk about karma!! I just went home for lunch, and there in the mailbox was a notice of delinquency from the parking bureau for a ticket I got in january. The thing is, I challenged that ticket and won (it was a simple error...I had paid for the parking and they mistakenly wrote me down as "not paid"). Perhaps I've achieved the "Parking Bureau's Enemies List".
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Here in the UK we keep getting stories about people getting tickets in London.
Goes something like this. Driver parks in a kerbside parking area which requires a timed ticket. Goes over the road to the machine to get it, puts it in the car and goes off. Comes back to find they have been issued a parking fine. Turns out the two sides of the road are in different council districts and the ticket machine they should have used is not the one just 20 feet away but the one 100 yards down the road.
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