For all you Quark bashers out there... Q 8 is on its way

[jdc]

ID users unite and bash away!

http://www.macworld.com/article/133661/2...ress8.html

[ka jowct]

Apparently they have finally wised up about a few things: for instance, no more Passport! At long last, Quark has caught up to Pagemaker 4 in the area of language support. And it should be easier to get decent looking type out of it.

[Mike Sellers]

Looks like they may get Job Jackets right this time. Maybe it will actually be as easy to use as ID's Preflight.

[Blankity Blank]

I'm kind of curious about it. If they put out a demo version I'll definitely download it. If Quark put out a really kick a$$ version, I wonder how many ID switchers would kick Adobe to the curb and run back to their first love?

(I wouldn't be part of that crowd. I've never liked the Quark way of doing things when it comes to laying out a page. It just feels clunky somehow.)

[jdc]

i havent "preflighted" anything in years

PDFs or nothing

ID gives me too many Painmaker flashbacks for me to use it

[Mike Sellers]

[quote jdc]i havent "preflighted" anything in years

PDFs or nothing.
Even if you're making press-ready PDFs, you should still preflight to weed out low-res and RGB images and superfluous fonts.

[vision63]

I use both. It's critical that QuarkXpress succeed. Our platform need as many well-developed productivity tools as possible. Adobe is too powerful a figure in our Mac lives. Imagine if Apple didn't start creating it's own tools.

[jdc]

[quote Mike Sellers][quote jdc]i havent "preflighted" anything in years

PDFs or nothing.
Even if you're making press-ready PDFs, you should still preflight to weed out low-res and RGB images and superfluous fonts.
I dont let that stuff come near my files =)

[Mike Sellers]

[quote jdc][quote Mike Sellers][quote jdc]i havent "preflighted" anything in years

PDFs or nothing.
Even if you're making press-ready PDFs, you should still preflight to weed out low-res and RGB images and superfluous fonts.
I dont let that stuff come near my files =)
That's OK is you only work on your own files. Even then, clicking one button to do a double check is a good work habit just like running spellcheck is for people who claim to never make a typo.

[ka jowct]

I wouldn't be part of that crowd. I've never liked the Quark way of doing things when it comes to laying out a page. It just feels clunky somehow.

Quark didn't exist when we moved from transfer lettering and various primitive implements of torture (e.g. IBM Electronic Selectric Composer) to a computer (Mac Plus, I think, plus a Linotronic 100 RIP and Imagesetter, plus Linotronic's bottom of the line processing unit, which was also an implement of torture). We began with Pagemaker 1.5. I did eventually get Quark, and used it quite a bit, but never got to like it, and couldn't use it for a lot of projects because it couldn't handle foreign languages properly.

ID does not remind me of Pagemaker, although it has a couple of features that PM also had that I really like, and that Quark has consistently failed to implement. So many things are clunky and irrational in the Quark interface: I have to assume that they only seem more user friendly and "logical" if you began with Quark and have never gotten comfortable with anything else.