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. . .sorta....new update AGAIN allows Palm Pre access to Apple iTunes (after Apple just crippled this). . .
. . .might start to get ugly. . .
Palm Pre reconnects with estranged iTunes
. . .Palm Inc.'s Pre phone can again connect to Apple's iTunes software — just a week after Apple Inc. shut it out.
A software update delivered automatically to the phones re-enables the transfer of music, photos and video from iTunes, according to a Palm blog post made late Thursday.
The $200 Pre launched in early June as a competitor to Apple Inc.'s iPhone, and became the first non-Apple device that could connect directly to iTunes. Apple crippled that function with an iTunes update last week, saying Pres were "falsely pretending to be iPods."
An Apple spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for comment Friday.
The iTunes battle is part of a larger rivarly developing between Apple and Palm, whose chairman and CEO, Jon Rubinstein, once was an executive at Apple and oversaw the iPod. The Pre includes a "multi-touch" screen like Apple's iPhone, which lets users do things like pinch the display to zoom in and out. . .
the gloves are OFF. . .
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Ha. Well, all Apple needs to do is keep breaking it and they've won this battle. It's not whether or not Pre syncing works on a certain day, or with a certain update, it's the inconvenience of not knowing if it'll work or not. And (itunes/iTMS/iTAS/etc) > Pre.
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I posit this is not a sustainable business model for Palm.
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Perhaps a real lawyer would know, but it's my understanding that deliberately blocking a competitor's product in this way is an anti-trust violation.
Yes, this could get ugly.
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I agree. If they've figured out how to legally connect with iTunes (meaning without reverse engineering and violating the DMCA) then Apple shouldn't be trying to stop it.
Instead they should just create different flavors of iTunes for companies like Palm and license it to them for a hefty fee.... Wait, that doesn't sound right...
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Or just make weekly changes to iTunes for 'enhancements'...
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Remember who runs things at Palm. Basically he's effing with Apple. At the end of the announcement for the Pre update, they wrote:
Oh, and one more thing: Palm webOS 1.1 re-enables Palm media sync. That's right--you once again can have seamless access to your music, photos and videos from the current version of iTunes (8.2.1).
Palm is working hard with many updates within just 2 months. It's gonna work for them too. Apple won't burden it's customers with weekly updates. Their monopoly on iTunes needs to be broken anyway. It's like saying you can only use one kind of video camera with iMovie. Go Palm.
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raz wrote:
Perhaps a real lawyer would know, but it's my understanding that deliberately blocking a competitor's product in this way is an anti-trust violation.
Yes, this could get ugly.
Yeah, because Apple has a monopoly... on its own product. But Apple has nowhere near a monopoly on music player software or online music stores. With DRM-free music now the standard for online music purchases from iTunes, Amazon, and elsewhere, there really is no "lock-in " or "tying" argument anymore.
Does Microsoft have a "monopoly" because the Zune is incompatible with Macs?
Palm should write their own media software or partner up with someone like Songbird that makes a pretty respectable cross-platform media player.
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No, Silencio. You miss the point. It's not a lock-in, it's a lock-out.
Rather than Zune, consider ActiveX where MS re-engineered Java to run exclusively on Windows. They lost an anti-trust action to Sun.
Or, try it from another point of view.
If General Motors were to build a car that would only run on tires sold by GM dealers, that would be the same thing.
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Silencio wrote:
[quote=raz]
Perhaps a real lawyer would know, but it's my understanding that deliberately blocking a competitor's product in this way is an anti-trust violation.
Yes, this could get ugly.
Yeah, because Apple has a monopoly... on its own product. But Apple has nowhere near a monopoly on music player software or online music stores. With DRM-free music now the standard for online music purchases from iTunes, Amazon, and elsewhere, there really is no "lock-in " or "tying" argument anymore.
Does Microsoft have a "monopoly" because the Zune is incompatible with Macs?
Palm should write their own media software or partner up with someone like Songbird that makes a pretty respectable cross-platform media player.
Palm doesn't have to write anything. There are plenty of other options to sync the Pre with your computer. Third party software is already written to accomplish that. Palm writing sync software would be redundant. That subject should be taken off of the table.
This is all about being part of the primary platform ecosystem. Plugging into that. That needs to be broken. Like I said, it's that "same" as if Apple required you to use one video camera with iMovie. How would that be reasonable?
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