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Paul Ryan: "Our plan is not to hurt CURRENT seniors..."
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In the NEAR FUTURE, however - seniors can be expected to be beaten with their tripod canes, then run over with their own Rascal scooters.

This Week wrote: "What do you mean, misinformation?" Amanpour asked.

"There are TV, radio and phone calls running, trying to scare seniors. The Democratic National Committee is running phone calls to seniors in my district, TV ads, saying we're hurting current seniors, which in fact that's not the case," Ryan explained.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/05/01/pa...formation/
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#2
"Put these reforms in now, they don't take effect for ten years to give people time to prepare," Ryan told constituents at one town hall last week.

Cute.

Time to prepare for poverty and an early grave.
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#3
He means time to run right out and get a high-paying job with fabulous benefits and great retirement plan. The lazy folks who won't do that don't deserve help anyhow, yes?
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$tevie wrote:
He means time to run right out and get a high-paying job with fabulous benefits and great retirement plan. The lazy folks who won't do that don't deserve help anyhow, yes?

Oh, of course.

I'll get my 90 year old grandma right on that. I hear that Fortune 500 companies love hiring people with lots of life-experience.
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mick e wrote:
In the NEAR FUTURE, however - seniors can be expected to be beaten with their tripod canes, then run over with their own Rascal scooters.

I doubt it. ;-)
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2011/04/rascal.shtm
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http://politicalcorrection.org/blog/201104150003

More to the point, a significant part of Ryan's budget proposal relies on repealing the Affordable Care Act. By doing this, the "donut hole" fix contained in the health care law would be eliminated, costing seniors $2.2 billion in 2011 alone. Additionally, the centrist think tank Third Way explained that doctors would move out of the traditional Medicare plan, hurting current seniors:

Despite promises to the contrary, current beneficiaries are not protected in the Ryan budget. Under the Republican proposal, traditional Medicare would quickly become second-class medicine. It would "wither on the vine," as then-House Speaker Newt Gingrich described a similar GOP effort in 1995.

The traditional Medicare plan, which covers three-fourths of today's beneficiaries, relies on its huge size to keep costs down. Doctors and hospitals are not required to participate in it, but they have little choice if they wish to treat any seniors, who are the nation's biggest health care consumers.

Fewer doctors would participate in the traditional Medicare plan if there were an alternative. The traditional plan pays physicians about 20% less than private health insurance plans. Today, that is essentially a discount for the large volume of Medicare patients. Under the Ryan budget, it would become a reason for doctors to leave the traditional plan.

By 2030, only 55% of Medicare beneficiaries would still be eligible for traditional Medicare according CBO. Actual enrollment would be less than half of Medicare beneficiaries because many seniors would continue to enroll in private health care coverage under Medicare Advantage. By 2040, traditional Medicare would have only about 20% of Medicare beneficiaries.
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The traditional plan pays physicians about 20% less than private health insurance plans

I thought cutting costs was supposed to be a virtue?
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If you're currently 55, you're on Easy Street. If you're 54, you'd better get your ass moving pretty quick to build up that savings account.
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Pops wrote:
If you're currently 55, you're on Easy Street. If you're 54, you'd better get your ass moving pretty quick to build up that savings account.

And what will really happen in ten years when those under 55 now see how much better the older group has it?
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rankandfile wrote:
[quote=Pops]
If you're currently 55, you're on Easy Street. If you're 54, you'd better get your ass moving pretty quick to build up that savings account.

And what will really happen in ten years when those under 55 now see how much better the older group has it?
a lot of this: :oldfogey:
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