"Panic Mom buys $567 worth of Smutty Tee Shirts" - This is the thread.

[SteveG]

Who put the 'ban' in Taliban?


"For filth (I'm glad to say) is in
the mind of the beholder".
-Tom Lehrer http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/S...7D0025920C


WHEN THE SHIRT HITS THE FAN
Woman buys all 'indecent' shirts to remove them from store
February 18, 2014 1:00 am • Here===> http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/ce...e=comments Genelle Pugmire - Daily Herald

Panic Mom Judith Cox
OREM - To wear or not to wear isn't the only question when it comes to perceived indecent clothing, but it's certainly a question that's catching the attention of national media.

A shopper at the University Mall in Orem was so offended by a T-shirt display at a store in the mall that she bought every shirt just to get them out of the window.

Judy Cox was on a birthday shopping trip with her teenage son at the University Mall Saturday when they passed the window display at PacSun. The window touted the company's line of "Visual" T-shirts that included screened photos of scantily-dressed models is provocative poses.

"I had a conversation with the store manager," Cox said. "She said she did refuse to put the accompanying banner up with the display because it was much worse, but that she couldn't take down the T-shirts without talking to her corporate office, but the promo was over Wednesday anyway. She said she told them it might not go over well."

The corporate offices also told the manager to report any complaints. University Mall management was also informed about the posters and wanted to know about customers' complaints. The Daily Herald contacted the store and the manager confirmed she had contacted the corporate headquarters Saturday and that her district manager was aware of the concern.

PacSun corporate officials did not return calls for this story.

Cox offered the idea that mall management should have enforced the lease agreements that include the display of vulgarity, nudity or anything that would go against city codes and community standards.

"This is hard to police because of freedom of speech," said Rob Kallas, mall manager. "I've talked with the local manager."

Cox is not the only one Kallas has heard from.

Kallas said in all cases, the protocol is to first have the person talk to the store manager, then alert mall management and then the Orem city attorney. "The city attorney then determines if it is violating city codes," Kallas said. "We are watching it closely."

Cox said that approach doesn't sit well with her and others. "That sounds all well and good," Cox said. "But why would they have to go to the city attorney when it's obviously against the mall lease."

Cox purchased all the of the T-shirts, including the displays from the store. She said she would like to just destroy all $567 worth, "but I'll let their corporate office figure out what to do with them when I return them on day 59 of a 60-day return policy." The shirts retail online for about $27.50.

When concerned shoppers contacted the PacSun corporate headquarters Monday, they were told the display had been taken down Saturday. It would most likely still be up and shirts available to minors without the Cox purchase, Cox said. Kallas said this was the first time the mall has ever received complaints against the store. When contacted by the Daily Herald, the PacSun store manager at the Provo Towne Centre said his store did not have the shirts up and were displaying the women's "LA Hearts" line.

[more at above link]

"When correctly viewed,
Everything is lewd."
-Tom Lehrer

[kj]

Good for her. She obviously feels strongly about it, and took action. kj.

[August West]

Cox purchased all the of the T-shirts, including the displays from the store. She said she would like to just destroy all $567 worth, "but I'll let their corporate office figure out what to do with them when I return them on day 59 of a 60-day return policy."

Teach your children well….

[kj]

August West wrote:

Cox purchased all the of the T-shirts, including the displays from the store. She said she would like to just destroy all $567 worth, "but I'll let their corporate office figure out what to do with them when I return them on day 59 of a 60-day return policy."

Teach your children well….

Would you have the same opinion if the T-Shirts had something you deemed objectionable on them? kj.

[beagledave]

kj wrote:
[quote=August West]

Cox purchased all the of the T-shirts, including the displays from the store. She said she would like to just destroy all $567 worth, "but I'll let their corporate office figure out what to do with them when I return them on day 59 of a 60-day return policy."

Teach your children well….

Would you have the same opinion if the T-Shirts had something you deemed objectionable on them? kj.
Of course not.

Because "two wrongs make a right" is a lesson that I want to teach my children.


Oh wait.

[kj]

I think it depends how important it is, I guess. If it were homophobic epithets on the t-shirts, I'd imagine her "wrong" all the sudden wouldn't be all that serious. In fact, she'd be a hero. Fwiw, August was arguing recently that sometimes subversive tactics are necessary, so it seemed odd that this extremely mild case be condemned out of hand. kj.

[beagledave]

kj wrote:
I think it depends how important it is, I guess. If it were homophobic epithets on the t-shirts, I'd imagine her "wrong" all the sudden wouldn't be all that serious. In fact, she'd be a hero. Fwiw, August was arguing recently that sometimes subversive tactics are necessary, so it seemed odd that this extremely mild case be condemned out of hand. kj.

So this woman's action was "necessary"? No other viable options?

I guess we have a different definition of necessary.

[August West]

Would you have the same opinion if the T-Shirts had something you deemed objectionable on them? kj.

My objection was not in the purchase of the offending tees, it was the abuse of the return policy. I think that weakens her argument tremendously and offers a poor example to others.

[cbelt3]

It is funny that the stores can and will sell T shirts that the mall cops will not allow kids to wear. I guess her approach is definitely free market forces at work.

[Ombligo]

One really needs to see some of the shirts to decide. Honestly these cover more than many bathing suits.






I don't find them offensive, or particularly interesting either. If she wants to spend $500 on the shirts fine, but I hope the store institutes a no return policy (returns are a courtesy, not a law). Frankly, I find her plan to return the shirts to be highly hypocritical.