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Today's mass shooting: Gunman among four dead in Cincinnati bank shooting- five wounded
#1
Because America needs more guns! Fortunately, cops who were actually trained to handle this responded.

https://nypost.com/2018/09/06/cincinnati...town-bank/
A gunman opened fire at a bank in downtown Cincinnati on Thursday morning, killing three people and injuring five others before being shot dead by police, officials said.

The man entered the loading dock of the 30-story Fifth Third Bank building at Fountain Square and began shooting about 9 a.m. local time, Cincinnati Police Chief Eliot Isaac told reporters.

He then made his way to the lobby, where he was met by police officers who gunned him down.

“At least three or four of our officers did engage the suspect,” Isaac said.

Isaac said he could not confirm local media reports that the shooter was a disgruntled employee of the bank, and said he had no information that the victims were targeted.

The motive of the shooter, whose identity has not been released, was not known.

Mayor John Cranley said the shooting could have been “much worse” had it not been for the quick response by cops in the area.

“He was actively shooting innocent victims, it appears, and our officers were able to kill him and stop the threat very quickly,” Cranley told a news conference.

The police chief said he could not say whether the gunman shot himself in addition to being shot by police. No officers were injured, city officials said.

“There’s something deeply sick at work here and we as a country need to work on it,” the mayor added at a news conference.
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#2
"Why shoot up banks?," they asked me. So I told 'em:

"Cuz that's where they keep my former co-workers!"
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#3
Garfield Heights, Ohio. Last night. . Abusive boyfriend murders two children of a.. co-worker. (She works in the factory, I've never met her, nice lady according to the people that know her.) What the HELL is wrong with some people ?

https://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ss..._garf.html
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#4
Not a mass shooting. A mass shooting is four or more dead NOT counting the dead Russian-funded NRA supported gunner.
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#5
Darn, there haven't been enuf shootings this month. We need more guns. AKs would fill the bill......

JEZzzzzzzz when will it end?:turbo:
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#6
cbelt3 wrote:
Garfield Heights, Ohio. Last night. . Abusive boyfriend murders two children of a.. co-worker. (She works in the factory, I've never met her, nice lady according to the people that know her.) What the HELL is wrong with some people ?

https://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ss..._garf.html

Yeah but thats just domestic violence. Its been around forever therefore there's nothing we can do about it. Thoughts and prayers.
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#7
Speedy wrote:
Not a mass shooting. A mass shooting is four or more dead NOT counting the dead Russian-funded NRA supported gunner.

Not a "mass shooting" by whose definition? There is no officially recognized definition of a mass shooting, the closest is the FBI's definition of a "mass murder" being where 4 or more persons are killed during a single event. There are many unofficial definitions for "mass shooting" that would make this a mass shooting, many include injured along with the dead. IN this case 3 killed, 2 injured plus the responsible party killed by the police.

Now there is a legally defined term of "mass killing". That was defined in the Investigative Assistance for Violent Crimes Act of 2012 as being where 3 or more persons were killed besides the perpetrator. By the language of that law this is definitely a mass killing.
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#8
Thoughts and Prayers.

https://outabouter.com/2018/02/15/at-cur...y-as-2019/
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#9
JoeH wrote:
[quote=Speedy]
Not a mass shooting. A mass shooting is four or more dead NOT counting the dead Russian-funded NRA supported gunner.

Not a "mass shooting" by whose definition? There is no officially recognized definition of a mass shooting, the closest is the FBI's definition of a "mass murder" being where 4 or more persons are killed during a single event. There are many unofficial definitions for "mass shooting" that would make this a mass shooting, many include injured along with the dead. IN this case 3 killed, 2 injured plus the responsible party killed by the police.

Now there is a legally defined term of "mass killing". That was defined in the Investigative Assistance for Violent Crimes Act of 2012 as being where 3 or more persons were killed besides the perpetrator. By the language of that law this is definitely a mass killing.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/...shootings/

"The FBI does not officially define “mass shooting” and does not use the term in Uniform Crime Report records. In the 1980s, the FBI established a definition for “mass murder” as “four or more victims slain, in one event, in one location,” and the offender is not included in the victim count if the shooter committed suicide or was killed in a justifiable homicide, according to a Congressional Research Service report detailing the definitions.

But such definitions are in dispute. The 1998 shooting at Thurston High School in Springfield, Ore., which had two fatalities and 25 people wounded, would not qualify under the FBI definition but still might seem like a mass shooting to others. In recent years, federal authorities have tended to speak of “active shooters” when three or more people are shot, not just killed.

Using the four-person-killed definition, Lankford found that the United States had far more mass shooters (90 shooters in the 46 years, or 31 percent of the total) than the other countries, which averaged 1.7 public mass shooter per country. His research excluded gang-related shootings, drive-by shootings, hostage-taking incidents, robberies and acts of genocide or terrorism."
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#10
So basically as I said "mass hooting" is an arbitrary definition and used differently by many people. Lankford doing his research chose that specific number, but that otherwise is not officially recognized as being definitive.
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