(Now ex-) Florida cop arrests two 6 y.o. kids

[Speedy]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/orl...aboolafeed

“A school resource officer was fired after arresting two 6-year-old students last week, Orlando police said Monday.

Orlando Police Chief Orlando Rolón announced that school resource officer Dennis Turner was terminated as a result of arresting the two children without the approval of a commanding officer. An investigation is still underway into the incident.”

“NBC affiliate WFLA reported that a 6-year-old girl was charged with battery after she kicked someone at Lucious and Emma Nixon Academy, a K-5th grade charter school in Orlando.”

“A second child, a 6-year-old boy, was arrested in a separate incident at the same school, was processed and later released to a relative.”

[C(-)ris]

The fact that police even need to be constantly called to Elementary schools for child issues should be the bigger shock.

[GGD]

C(-)ris wrote:
The fact that police even need to be constantly called to Elementary schools for child issues should be the bigger shock.

He was described as a "school resource officer". Sounds more like he worked there than that he was called to the school.

[Rolando]

"school resource officer" is NiceSpeak for "security"

Of course its ridiculous, but I know teachers, and none of them is going to risk a lawsuit by the student's parents: "Not my baby!"

I spent a few months teaching in high school, and some kid said he was gonna kick my ass. He was 15, I was 24. He was bigger and heavier than me. I'm 5'6" and was maybe 150 at that time.

I looked him in the eye and whispered: "You little fuxxer. You wouldn't last five minutes in my 'hood. You want to take a shot. Go for it"

He backed down. I realized I don't like other peoples kids and quit teaching.

[rjmacs]

C(-)ris wrote:
The fact that police even need to be constantly called to Elementary schools for child issues should be the bigger shock.

The fact that someone thinks you need to call a police officer (or an SRO/school cop) to respond to a call of a 6-year old kicking someone should dwarf whatever shock you're talking about.

[cbelt3]

It's the end game in a trend started decades ago, IMHO. Teachers are not allowed to touch students. But guess what ? Little children respond best to a gentle touch, a hug, a pat on the back, a hand on the hand. It's the best way to stop a triggered temper tantrum.

Anyone who expects a child under the (mental) age of 7 to present adult level calm is insane.

[Paul F.]

rjmacs wrote:
[quote=C(-)ris]
The fact that police even need to be constantly called to Elementary schools for child issues should be the bigger shock.

The fact that someone thinks you need to call a police officer (or an SRO/school cop) to respond to a call of a 6-year old kicking someone should dwarf whatever shock you're talking about.
Go ahead... lay your hands on a 6 year old who is attacking another student. Just touch her. I dare you.
You'll be the one going to jail.
I think it's stupid too, but things ain't like they used to be.

[Blankity Blank]

No red flags here...

”[school resource officer] Turner had a previous incident "in his personal life" involving his child that was investigated by a neighboring police department. An internal investigation sustained the allegations and Turner was disciplined at the time.”

[rjmacs]

cbelt3 wrote:
It's the end game in a trend started decades ago, IMHO. Teachers are not allowed to touch students. But guess what ? Little children respond best to a gentle touch, a hug, a pat on the back, a hand on the hand. It's the best way to stop a triggered temper tantrum.

Anyone who expects a child under the (mental) age of 7 to present adult level calm is insane.

Paul F. wrote:
[quote=rjmacs]
[quote=C(-)ris]
The fact that police even need to be constantly called to Elementary schools for child issues should be the bigger shock.

The fact that someone thinks you need to call a police officer (or an SRO/school cop) to respond to a call of a 6-year old kicking someone should dwarf whatever shock you're talking about.
Go ahead... lay your hands on a 6 year old who is attacking another student. Just touch her. I dare you.
You'll be the one going to jail.
I think it's stupid too, but things ain't like they used to be.
I don't know what school systems you're talking about. Can you be more specific? If no-touching rules are the reason that police are being called to break up first-grader fights, that's probably been covered in the news. I can't find any reports, but it seems you're more familiar with the issue.

[C(-)ris]

rjmacs wrote:
[quote=cbelt3]
It's the end game in a trend started decades ago, IMHO. Teachers are not allowed to touch students. But guess what ? Little children respond best to a gentle touch, a hug, a pat on the back, a hand on the hand. It's the best way to stop a triggered temper tantrum.

Anyone who expects a child under the (mental) age of 7 to present adult level calm is insane.

Paul F. wrote:
[quote=rjmacs]
[quote=C(-)ris]
The fact that police even need to be constantly called to Elementary schools for child issues should be the bigger shock.

The fact that someone thinks you need to call a police officer (or an SRO/school cop) to respond to a call of a 6-year old kicking someone should dwarf whatever shock you're talking about.
Go ahead... lay your hands on a 6 year old who is attacking another student. Just touch her. I dare you.
You'll be the one going to jail.
I think it's stupid too, but things ain't like they used to be.
I don't know what school systems you're talking about. Can you be more specific? If no-touching rules are the reason that police are being called to break up first-grader fights, that's probably been covered in the news. I can't find any reports, but it seems you're more familiar with the issue.
2011 WISCONSIN ACT 125

(6) Physical restraint; training. (a) Except as provided in par. ©, no covered individual may use physical restraint on a pupil at school unless he or she has received training in the use of physical restraint that includes all of the following components:

There is a lot more to it, but a normal classroom teacher cannot use restraint which would pretty much be the only way to stop a fight if verbal commands don't work. If there is no trained staff available the only option is to call the police if they won't stop.