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How is your concrete lasting
#1
Well, not exactly all that informative.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/...will-last/

How to install a concrete driveway or sidewalk that will last

“Q: Tim, I’m about to have a new concrete driveway installed, as well as some sidewalks. I asked the bidding contractors how long I might expect the concrete to last. The range given was from 20 to 30 years. That seems like a long time, but I thought it could last much longer. How long can concrete last, in your opinion? What can be done to extend the useful life of concrete whether it’s flatwork, steps or foundation walls? — Tom B., Rockdale, Ill.

A: These are good questions, especially if you’ve ever had problems with concrete installed by a nonprofessional. If improperly installed, new concrete can crack, spall or fail in any number of other ways.

I'd like to share some experiences with you to give you an idea of what's possible with concrete life expectancy. The first one involves railroads. I was a conductor on a local scenic train for two years, and I've always taken an interest in railroads and how they were built.

I started to notice the concrete abutments and bridge supports near my last home in Cincinnati years ago. One day I happened to see on one abutment a cast date in the concrete. It was 1919! The concrete looked to be in fantastic shape with no cracks, no spalling and nothing missing. It was dirty, of course, but otherwise looked almost new. I've since looked at other railroad bridge abutments and seen the same thing: old concrete in great shape.

I also used to take walks around the older suburb of Pleasant Ridge in Cincinnati. There were numerous houses built upon slight rises from the street. Many had a set of concrete steps coated with stucco. These steps were in perfect condition, and most, no doubt, were installed in the early 1900s. Stuccoing steps is almost a lost art, by the way.”
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#2
No structural engineering experience here but it’s my understanding that concrete is a concoction, and so, variability and so, “quality levels/application levels” probably exist.

50-70 years is what I’ve read. Flat surfaces like sidewalks cannot be expected to hold up like vertical ones, and all of that is with taking the chemistry and installation out of the equation.
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#3
Residential sidewalks & driveways need:
Compacted, properly graded base.
3000psi mix (min)
Wire grid reinforcement
Properly spaced & installed expansion joints.
Never pour below 40F or when the temp will drop lower on consecutive days.

More than you want to know about concrete.
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#4
....dude.......it last.....ALL.....night long.............and then some......
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I reject your reality and substitute my own!
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#5
The Colosseum is still standing. Well, most of it, and it's made from concrete
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#6
My sidewalk poured 15 years ago has no cracks. It wasn't cheap. The contractor said it was high performance concrete - typically used for commercial use. HPC
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#7
Buck wrote:
The Colosseum is still standing. Well, most of it, and it's made from concrete

Yes, but a totally different formulation than used today for concrete.
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#8
JoeH wrote:
[quote=Buck]
The Colosseum is still standing. Well, most of it, and it's made from concrete

Yes, but a totally different formulation than used today for concrete.
100+ years can be done if the builder is willing to put in enough effort and money to source reliable materials. There was business building in my mom's home town that had been built by a guy after he went to Italy where he spent three years tracking down legendary concrete mixes. 65 years later, two different demolition companies bid, started work, and then walked away from their contracts trying to take it down. A few years later, another company used explosives and eventually got the site clear.
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#9
The Jimmy Hoffa brand?
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#10
NewtonMP2100 wrote:
long.............and then some

Something is amiss. Even Newt wouldn't use that many elipses…or dots…or whatever the hell it is that he does in every post.
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