Congressman flips stance on assault weapons ban

[gadje]

Why would anyone oppose bans on ASSAULT weapons in the first place?

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023...sr-vpx.cnn

[macphanatic]

gadje wrote:
Why would anyone oppose bans on ASSAULT weapons in the first place?

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023...sr-vpx.cnn

Well, the previous nominee to run the ATF couldn't define what an "assault" weapon was when questioned. One of the weapons that has become synonymous with being an "assault" weapon, the AR-15, started of as a civilian rifle before being adopted by the US as a military weapon.

[btfc]

What’s in a name? That which we call a assault weapon
By any other name would kill as dead…

[gabester]

I won't watch the video now but can infer from the link that Rep Jared Golden has switched his stance.
Don't know who he is or what his previous stance was.

I'm pretty OK with banning any weapon regardless of classification or description that is capable of killing a half dozen or more people in the span of a minute at a range of more than 10 feet.

[vision63]

gabester wrote:
I won't watch the video now but can infer from the link that Rep Jared Golden has switched his stance.
Don't know who he is or what his previous stance was.

I'm pretty OK with banning any weapon regardless of classification or description that is capable of killing a half dozen or more people in the span of a minute at a range of more than 10 feet.

We just got the one guy to switch.

[DeusxMac]

macphanatic wrote:
..the AR-15, started of as a civilian rifle before being adopted by the US as a military weapon.

At the risk of this important discussion devolving into the gun-lovers' favorite diversion of pedantry; is that actually the case?

Its history shows it to be "military" ALL the way back.

"The Colt AR-15 is a lightweight, magazine-fed, gas-operated semi-automatic rifle. It is a semi-automatic version of the M16 rifle sold for the civilian and law enforcement markets in the United States."

"The M16 rifle (officially designated Rifle, Caliber 5.56 mm, M16) is a family of military rifles adapted from the ArmaLite AR-15 rifle for the United States military."

"Designed by American gun manufacturer ArmaLite in 1956, it was based on its AR-10 rifle. The ArmaLite AR-15 was designed to be a lightweight rifle and to fire a new high-velocity, lightweight, small-caliber cartridge to allow infantrymen to carry more ammunition."

"The ArmaLite AR-10 is a 7.62×51mm NATO battle rifle..."

[Racer X]

gabester wrote:
I won't watch the video now but can infer from the link that Rep Jared Golden has switched his stance.
Don't know who he is or what his previous stance was.

I'm pretty OK with banning any weapon regardless of classification or description that is capable of killing a half dozen or more people in the span of a minute at a range of more than 10 feet.

ok, so slings, bows, crossbows, throwing knives, spears/lances, rocks, hatchets, axes... I'm sure I can think of more later. Oh, rope/chain with a weight/blade on the end. Ever watch martial artists?

and cars/trucks. Since people get charged with assault with a deadly weapon for purposfully plowing into a crowd, they qualify.

[Speedy]

Smote wrote: ok, so slings, bows, crossbows, throwing knives, spears/lances, rocks, hatchets, axes... I'm sure I can think of more later. Oh, rope/chain with a weight/blade on the end. Ever watch martial artists?

and cars/trucks. Since people get charged with assault with a deadly weapon for purposfully plowing into a crowd, they qualify.

I thought we were discussing a mass slaughter. Except for motor vehicles, it would be difficult to carry out a mass slaughter with the rest of your list except perhaps in a kindergarten room with the killer on the inside of a barricaded door. And motor vehicles and the operators of motor vehicles are “well regulated”.

[Racer X]

anyone with cash can buy a motor vehicle. How is that regulated? Or just carjack someone. And not having a license doesn't stop people from driving. Criminals by definition don't follow the law.

" A skilled longbowman could shoot about 12 shots per minute." https://www.tastesofhistory.co.uk/post/d...s-a-minute

hatchet throwing is @ 6 a minute with accuracy according to the interwebs.

The blade on a rope/chain martial arts style is just ugly. I've seen a demonstration on melons on top of posts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rope_dart

Or a backpack full of Molotov cocktails. Honestly, I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often. It did happen at least once this year, down in Mexico. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/mexico/elev...-rcna95765

how would you regulate a garbage can filled with diesel and fertilizer?

If somebody wants to, they will.

[Speedy]

Smote wrote:
anyone with cash can buy a motor vehicle. How is that regulated? Or just carjack someone. And not having a license doesn't stop people from driving. Criminals by definition don't follow the law.

" A skilled longbowman could shoot about 12 shots per minute." https://www.tastesofhistory.co.uk/post/d...s-a-minute

hatchet throwing is @ 6 a minute with accuracy according to the interwebs.

The blade on a rope/chain martial arts style is just ugly. I've seen a demonstration on melons on top of posts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rope_dart

Or a backpack full of Molotov cocktails. Honestly, I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often. It did happen at least once this year, down in Mexico. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/mexico/elev...-rcna95765

how would you regulate a garbage can filled with diesel and fertilizer?

If somebody wants to, they will.

But not easily which is why, even though those other weapons are available worldwide, you seldom hear that they are used. Also, in most states vehicle insurance is required and if you don’t have it your are subject to criminal penalties. Do you require a key to fire a gun? Your fingerprint could be read by a trigger before it could be pulled.